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Old 04 May 2009, 03:09 PM
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Default Intercooler advice needed

When i had my car remapped i was advised to upgrade the standard intercooler on my uk 99 impreza.

I don't know if i would be better off going for a newage sti topmount,or going down the frontmount route

Also will the car need to be remapped again with a different intercooler.

I would be grateful for some advice.
thanks mark.
Old 04 May 2009, 03:34 PM
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Would defo need to be remapped after a front mount Mark, otherwise you'll get the same as i did and the car will overboost and cut the power. The draw back i've found with a front mount is that you get a bit of lag between gear changes, but you soon get used to this and just change gear a bit quicker. Its definatly the safest route if your going to be running higher boost.

If your not going to be running anymore boost/power than you are now, i'd go for an STI 8 top mount. Their around the best top mounts, rated up to 400BHP and readily available too. Supposed to be a bit fiddly to fit to a classic, but so is the front mount.

Top mount
For: Very little lag between gear changes.
Against: Prone to heat soak from engine bay making them less efficient, especially on high boost/power cars.

Front mount
For: Not prone to heat soak and far more efficient due to higher surface area.
The safest option on high boost/power cars.
Against: Increased lag between gear changes.
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TBH unless your going for 450bhp+ the sti top mount is all you'll need, i think a front mount is more for cosmetic apeal than performance gains and may even introduce more lag, would'nt realy need a remap but you would see gains from one
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Mark, I am putting a Newage WRX on mine soon. Apart from a small piece of plate and a pipe, it's a straight swap.
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Thanks for the comments, sti 8 topmount it is then
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Deans just dropped an Sti top on his Mark, he will run through it on the car it's much easier to understand.

What extra brackets do you need for the wrx one Ian I like the look of that.
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That is great, see you all wednesday.
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Originally Posted by Silver Scooby Sport
Deans just dropped an Sti top on his Mark, he will run through it on the car it's much easier to understand.

What extra brackets do you need for the wrx one Ian I like the look of that.
I have made the bridging bracket for the O/S from some steel plate. I've added a STi Badge to the back ridge to get the OE look. It'll go on when I get the WRX Newage DV Pipe.

Anyone got one

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Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon
I have made the bridging bracket for the O/S from some steel plate. I've added a STi Badge to the back ridge to get the OE look. It'll go on when I get the WRX Newage DV Pipe.

Anyone got one
Ian, i know the newage wrx intercooler is bigger than our classics,so would the wrx be good enough or would i be better off looking for a newage sti.
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Horses for courses mate. Less work with the Newage but you can run a bigger turbo and BHP with the STi IC.

I was put off with the extra cutting and work with the STI. The Newage is cheaper compared to the STi and it's easier to get the Newage Undertrays.

Your call.
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I'll have my STi TMIC for sale once I fit the one I'm buying off Danny
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Originally Posted by mervil
I'll have my STi TMIC for sale once I fit the one I'm buying off Danny
There's your best bet Mark.
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I put a Newage WRX intercooler onto my old classic. it was simple to do actually. i used the same classic brackets just altered there shape a little bit then sprayed them up.
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Ian thanks for sending me the link.

Hopefully have one delivered by the weekend

going down the same route as you
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Group fitting session at my place if you want?
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Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon
Group fitting session at my place if you want?

Sounds like a plan

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I'll let you know when I can get the garage. I have a spare bit of steel bridging plate too.
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Ian, i will probably have a qualified mechanic with me.

You can see the quality of his work by clicking on ryan33hks profile
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Originally Posted by mp24
Ian, i will probably have a qualified mechanic with me.

You can see the quality of his work by clicking on ryan33hks profile
You knows it Mark But please.. enough of the flirting
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what sort of power are the newage wrx ICs good for? 350max be ok on it?
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It's bigger than the Type R, P1, STi intercooler on the Classics by about 20%.

Not sure on the gains but it's got to be better than the standard 280/300 bhp by some margin.

I'll let you know when I get it checked
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Originally Posted by Silver Scooby Sport
Deans just dropped an Sti top on his Mark, he will run through it on the car it's much easier to understand.

What extra brackets do you need for the wrx one Ian I like the look of that.
you loves it
good choice on going topside guys
front mounts are over rated if the horses are not there
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Won't be at the meet coz im afternoons again
But as Si said ive recently put the STI top mount on mine and it isn't hard to do at all.

Some pics here from when i did mine:
https://www.scoobynet.com/projects-4...y-tidy-up.html
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Originally Posted by valley commando
you loves it
good choice on going topside guys
front mounts are over rated if the horses are not there
Rich,i was going to order a front mount,now i'm glad i asked advice on here first

If i had gone with my own instincts i would be looking at another remap
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Originally Posted by turboDean
Won't be at the meet coz im afternoons again
But as Si said ive recently put the STI top mount on mine and it isn't hard to do at all.

Some pics here from when i did mine:
https://www.scoobynet.com/projects-4...y-tidy-up.html
That is a looking lovely dean
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if i was to be doing a few mods soon. ie vf38, bellmouth decat, headers and fuel pump. would i be better off going front mount on my sti v3. i know i will have to get the piggy back ecu as well but would i be wasting my time with upgrading my top mount?
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As Richie said really, no need to go front mount unless your running high BHP. It was a good move for me as i had the smallest slanty type intercooler on there standard and bought the front mount cheap. I'd be tempted to go for Mervils STI top mount if i were in your position, may as well do it before the re-map. Scooby 401 runs 375 BHP on his STI 8 top mount, no problems, they are viewed to be the best top mount by far.
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I've been down the FMIC route before and unless i was going over 450bhp i wouldn't do it again, unless it was an early classic where an STI8 intercooler won't fit.


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