PSI3 Monitors - Which one?
23 August 2006, 02:13 PM
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PSI3 Monitors - Which one?
Having had a look at the website is there much difference between the £200 version and the £315 version. Is it all about *****, colours and graphics or am I missing something. Boths specs seem the same
I don't want to know the doffer ferkin on the fan dangle or the terminal velocity of footballers spit but...................
I know there's a group buy, but which one? Cheap or expensive?
I don't want to know the doffer ferkin on the fan dangle or the terminal velocity of footballers spit but...................
I know there's a group buy, but which one? Cheap or expensive?
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23 August 2006, 04:05 PM
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They both display the same information but it's down to the display.
LCD is light green and can be affected by direct sun light Ie: you can't read it
VFD can use different filters to give different colours and is less effected by sun light
Are you going to mount it in a pod or as a single din?
If your going for a pod get a VFD if you going for a single din it's up to you which one you want.
I've got the LCD version and had it for 3 years now, great bit of kit but you'll need to buy extra sensors if you want oil temp and oil pressure (£170 +Vat)!!!!!
LCD is light green and can be affected by direct sun light Ie: you can't read it
VFD can use different filters to give different colours and is less effected by sun light
Are you going to mount it in a pod or as a single din?
If your going for a pod get a VFD if you going for a single din it's up to you which one you want.
I've got the LCD version and had it for 3 years now, great bit of kit but you'll need to buy extra sensors if you want oil temp and oil pressure (£170 +Vat)!!!!!
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I've got the LCD version in mine Ian, I can show you when I give you the centre pipe if you like? (p.s. when do you want to meet?).
As Danny says, the only difference is the display and I've only had one occasion where the sun was at the wrong angle to be able to read the display properly. TBH, you're unlikely to 'watch' it that much while driving anyway unless you feel there something amiss with the car, so any display issues are going to be few and far between. The blue does look nice though, pippyrips showed me his last week, however personally I wouldn't shell out the difference just for the VFD screen.
danny's also right about needing the extra sensors for oil pressure and temp - although when I plugged mine in it immediately gave me oil pressure readings and I haven't fitted any extra sensors!!! Result!!!
Either 1) one of the previous two onwers had one (or a gauge) or 2) the bugeye wrx already has oil pressure metrics in the ECU.
I'd like oil temp but not for £170+.
You should be able to pick up an LCD version for around £150.
As Danny says, the only difference is the display and I've only had one occasion where the sun was at the wrong angle to be able to read the display properly. TBH, you're unlikely to 'watch' it that much while driving anyway unless you feel there something amiss with the car, so any display issues are going to be few and far between. The blue does look nice though, pippyrips showed me his last week, however personally I wouldn't shell out the difference just for the VFD screen.
danny's also right about needing the extra sensors for oil pressure and temp - although when I plugged mine in it immediately gave me oil pressure readings and I haven't fitted any extra sensors!!! Result!!!
Either 1) one of the previous two onwers had one (or a gauge) or 2) the bugeye wrx already has oil pressure metrics in the ECU.
I'd like oil temp but not for £170+.
You should be able to pick up an LCD version for around £150.
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Originally Posted by Trap2Terrorist
I've got the LCD version in mine Ian, I can show you when I give you the centre pipe if you like? (p.s. when do you want to meet?).
As Danny says, the only difference is the display and I've only had one occasion where the sun was at the wrong angle to be able to read the display properly. TBH, you're unlikely to 'watch' it that much while driving anyway unless you feel there something amiss with the car, so any display issues are going to be few and far between. The blue does look nice though, pippyrips showed me his last week, however personally I wouldn't shell out the difference just for the VFD screen.
danny's also right about needing the extra sensors for oil pressure and temp - although when I plugged mine in it immediately gave me oil pressure readings and I haven't fitted any extra sensors!!! Result!!!
Either 1) one of the previous two onwers had one (or a gauge) or 2) the bugeye wrx already has oil pressure metrics in the ECU.
I'd like oil temp but not for £170+.
You should be able to pick up an LCD version for around £150.
As Danny says, the only difference is the display and I've only had one occasion where the sun was at the wrong angle to be able to read the display properly. TBH, you're unlikely to 'watch' it that much while driving anyway unless you feel there something amiss with the car, so any display issues are going to be few and far between. The blue does look nice though, pippyrips showed me his last week, however personally I wouldn't shell out the difference just for the VFD screen.
danny's also right about needing the extra sensors for oil pressure and temp - although when I plugged mine in it immediately gave me oil pressure readings and I haven't fitted any extra sensors!!! Result!!!
Either 1) one of the previous two onwers had one (or a gauge) or 2) the bugeye wrx already has oil pressure metrics in the ECU.
I'd like oil temp but not for £170+.
You should be able to pick up an LCD version for around £150.
mine gives out readings for pressure but they are nominal values - the sensors need to be plugged in to the back of the monitor i think - does it give a moving/credible readout?
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Hi Rob,
Yes, mine gives proper readouts, normally steady at 6.6bar but has been up to 6.8bar and as low as 5.8bar (cold day).
The oil temp constantly reads 1 degree, which I assume is its default value.
Edit: p.s. I fitted mine into the stereo cage and plugged it into the ODBII port, without any additional cables or sensors. It took me a while to notice the oil pressure readings were changing because it always read 6.6bar. It wasn't until I fannied around (technical term) with the pages that I noticed it was displaying different values on hot/ambient days.
Yes, mine gives proper readouts, normally steady at 6.6bar but has been up to 6.8bar and as low as 5.8bar (cold day).
The oil temp constantly reads 1 degree, which I assume is its default value.
Edit: p.s. I fitted mine into the stereo cage and plugged it into the ODBII port, without any additional cables or sensors. It took me a while to notice the oil pressure readings were changing because it always read 6.6bar. It wasn't until I fannied around (technical term) with the pages that I noticed it was displaying different values on hot/ambient days.
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Any pictures......
Good thread, I'm pondering between the two...
I'll have to go for the pod mount on my bugeye as I've a lcd and headunit in the double din space...
Any pictures to help me make my mind up??
I'll have to go for the pod mount on my bugeye as I've a lcd and headunit in the double din space...
Any pictures to help me make my mind up??
24 August 2006, 09:40 AM
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I am look at the DIN mount below the CD player. This is the spec (sorry borrowed from PSI3 Site, Hope you don't mind as I am thinking of buying).
SPECIAL OFFER PRICE including VAT and delivery £200.00 (UK Only)
Single DIN LCD data monitor. Features negative mode extended temperature range LCD.
Live Data Monitoring of : - battery voltage, engine speed, vehicle road speed, coolant temperature, intake temperature, injector duration, knock, lambda, throttle postion, boost pressure.
Current and historic fault code reading.
ECU and fault code reset.
Shift light control.
User adjustable alarm monitoring of : - battery voltage high and low, boost pressure, coolant temperature, oil pressure and temperature via additional sensors.
Water injection/nitrous control.
Record peak reading for engine speed, boost pressure, road speed and coolant temperature.
Clock.
Plug and play fitment.
Oil pressure, oil temperature via additional sensors.
Supplied in Subaru single DIN enclosure, black buttons, black front panel, user manual, OBD interface cable and cable ties.
I don't think that I would be too bothered about Oil psi or Temp really.
The money I save can go on something else
SPECIAL OFFER PRICE including VAT and delivery £200.00 (UK Only)
Single DIN LCD data monitor. Features negative mode extended temperature range LCD.
Live Data Monitoring of : - battery voltage, engine speed, vehicle road speed, coolant temperature, intake temperature, injector duration, knock, lambda, throttle postion, boost pressure.
Current and historic fault code reading.
ECU and fault code reset.
Shift light control.
User adjustable alarm monitoring of : - battery voltage high and low, boost pressure, coolant temperature, oil pressure and temperature via additional sensors.
Water injection/nitrous control.
Record peak reading for engine speed, boost pressure, road speed and coolant temperature.
Clock.
Plug and play fitment.
Oil pressure, oil temperature via additional sensors.
Supplied in Subaru single DIN enclosure, black buttons, black front panel, user manual, OBD interface cable and cable ties.
I don't think that I would be too bothered about Oil psi or Temp really.
The money I save can go on something else
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Originally Posted by Spoiler
Good thread, I'm pondering between the two...
I'll have to go for the pod mount on my bugeye as I've a lcd and headunit in the double din space...
Any pictures to help me make my mind up??
I'll have to go for the pod mount on my bugeye as I've a lcd and headunit in the double din space...
Any pictures to help me make my mind up??
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Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon
I am look at the DIN mount below the CD player. This is the spec (sorry borrowed from PSI3 Site, Hope you don't mind as I am thinking of buying).
SPECIAL OFFER PRICE including VAT and delivery £200.00 (UK Only)
Single DIN LCD data monitor. Features negative mode extended temperature range LCD.
Live Data Monitoring of : - battery voltage, engine speed, vehicle road speed, coolant temperature, intake temperature, injector duration, knock, lambda, throttle postion, boost pressure.
Current and historic fault code reading.
ECU and fault code reset.
Shift light control.
User adjustable alarm monitoring of : - battery voltage high and low, boost pressure, coolant temperature, oil pressure and temperature via additional sensors.
Water injection/nitrous control.
Record peak reading for engine speed, boost pressure, road speed and coolant temperature.
Clock.
Plug and play fitment.
Oil pressure, oil temperature via additional sensors.
Supplied in Subaru single DIN enclosure, black buttons, black front panel, user manual, OBD interface cable and cable ties.
I don't think that I would be too bothered about Oil psi or Temp really.
The money I save can go on something else
SPECIAL OFFER PRICE including VAT and delivery £200.00 (UK Only)
Single DIN LCD data monitor. Features negative mode extended temperature range LCD.
Live Data Monitoring of : - battery voltage, engine speed, vehicle road speed, coolant temperature, intake temperature, injector duration, knock, lambda, throttle postion, boost pressure.
Current and historic fault code reading.
ECU and fault code reset.
Shift light control.
User adjustable alarm monitoring of : - battery voltage high and low, boost pressure, coolant temperature, oil pressure and temperature via additional sensors.
Water injection/nitrous control.
Record peak reading for engine speed, boost pressure, road speed and coolant temperature.
Clock.
Plug and play fitment.
Oil pressure, oil temperature via additional sensors.
Supplied in Subaru single DIN enclosure, black buttons, black front panel, user manual, OBD interface cable and cable ties.
I don't think that I would be too bothered about Oil psi or Temp really.
The money I save can go on something elsejobs a goodun
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Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon
I am look at the DIN mount below the CD player. This is the spec (sorry borrowed from PSI3 Site, Hope you don't mind as I am thinking of buying).
SPECIAL OFFER PRICE including VAT and delivery £200.00 (UK Only)
Single DIN LCD data monitor. Features negative mode extended temperature range LCD.
Live Data Monitoring of : - battery voltage, engine speed, vehicle road speed, coolant temperature, intake temperature, injector duration, knock, lambda, throttle postion, boost pressure.
Current and historic fault code reading.
ECU and fault code reset.
Shift light control.
User adjustable alarm monitoring of : - battery voltage high and low, boost pressure, coolant temperature, oil pressure and temperature via additional sensors.
Water injection/nitrous control.
Record peak reading for engine speed, boost pressure, road speed and coolant temperature.
Clock.
Plug and play fitment.
Oil pressure, oil temperature via additional sensors.
Supplied in Subaru single DIN enclosure, black buttons, black front panel, user manual, OBD interface cable and cable ties.
I don't think that I would be too bothered about Oil psi or Temp really.
The money I save can go on something else
SPECIAL OFFER PRICE including VAT and delivery £200.00 (UK Only)
Single DIN LCD data monitor. Features negative mode extended temperature range LCD.
Live Data Monitoring of : - battery voltage, engine speed, vehicle road speed, coolant temperature, intake temperature, injector duration, knock, lambda, throttle postion, boost pressure.
Current and historic fault code reading.
ECU and fault code reset.
Shift light control.
User adjustable alarm monitoring of : - battery voltage high and low, boost pressure, coolant temperature, oil pressure and temperature via additional sensors.
Water injection/nitrous control.
Record peak reading for engine speed, boost pressure, road speed and coolant temperature.
Clock.
Plug and play fitment.
Oil pressure, oil temperature via additional sensors.
Supplied in Subaru single DIN enclosure, black buttons, black front panel, user manual, OBD interface cable and cable ties.
I don't think that I would be too bothered about Oil psi or Temp really.
The money I save can go on something elseoil temp and pressure are 2 of the most important things the secs can tell you - its just a pain to have to buy the senders to get the readings. apart from the fault and knock readings the rest you could do without
i think kev bought them but never got round to fitting - might be worth seeing if he will include them in his car boot sale
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Originally Posted by Trap2Terrorist
Hi Rob,
Yes, mine gives proper readouts, normally steady at 6.6bar but has been up to 6.8bar and as low as 5.8bar (cold day).
The oil temp constantly reads 1 degree, which I assume is its default value.
Edit: p.s. I fitted mine into the stereo cage and plugged it into the ODBII port, without any additional cables or sensors. It took me a while to notice the oil pressure readings were changing because it always read 6.6bar. It wasn't until I fannied around (technical term) with the pages that I noticed it was displaying different values on hot/ambient days.
Yes, mine gives proper readouts, normally steady at 6.6bar but has been up to 6.8bar and as low as 5.8bar (cold day).
The oil temp constantly reads 1 degree, which I assume is its default value.
Edit: p.s. I fitted mine into the stereo cage and plugged it into the ODBII port, without any additional cables or sensors. It took me a while to notice the oil pressure readings were changing because it always read 6.6bar. It wasn't until I fannied around (technical term) with the pages that I noticed it was displaying different values on hot/ambient days.
i think the pressure readings your getting are random outputs. Only reason i say this is because mine at idle reads 2.2 ish bar via the gauges and pressure will goes up as high as 10bar when throttle is applied etc
Easy well to tell is to rev the engine - your pressure reading should be moving all the time inline with throttle pressure - give me a shout and i can send pics of where the sensors are for you to check yours
But have just secured the VFD Version for £220 delivered. Cheers Pippy, can you have my babies
29 August 2006, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon
Have the LCD Version coming tomorrow. It has a new ROM and the oil temp and pressure sensors as well.
I'll try and get it fitted Friday (anyone else got the day off?) before I drive to Gretna on Saturday.
I'll try and get it fitted Friday (anyone else got the day off?) before I drive to Gretna on Saturday.
30 August 2006, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Trap2Terrorist
I'm working but am available by phone if you need any advice during fitment. Are you fitting in the spare DIN or in a pod?
DIN socket below the CD Player.
Gazz,
I have a garage here in work I can use. If you want I'll give you a ring Thursday night.
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