TSL Geometry - subarussion read this!
10 February 2003, 09:20 PM
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subarussion, as discussed on this thread here's my report back on the TSL geometry setup I had done this afternoon.
In a word - SUPERB!
Graham from TSL and I took the car out round the wonderful lanes around Keyworth after the work was done and the differnce was very noticeable!!
No more side to side kicks from the wheel under heavy braking and wonderfully precise turn in, with understeer much reduced... (or gone!)
The first sharp turn I took, I turned in a bit too tight, compensating for a problem that was no longer there!
Down the M1 afterwards, crusing in the slow lane with it's deep ruts from all the lorry's, the car went where I wanted it to and didn't follow the ruts as before.
This is a FANTASTIC was to spend £105 + VAT and would recommend it to anyone who enjoys blasting around in the Impreza!!
In a word - SUPERB!
Graham from TSL and I took the car out round the wonderful lanes around Keyworth after the work was done and the differnce was very noticeable!!
No more side to side kicks from the wheel under heavy braking and wonderfully precise turn in, with understeer much reduced... (or gone!)
The first sharp turn I took, I turned in a bit too tight, compensating for a problem that was no longer there!
Down the M1 afterwards, crusing in the slow lane with it's deep ruts from all the lorry's, the car went where I wanted it to and didn't follow the ruts as before.
This is a FANTASTIC was to spend £105 + VAT and would recommend it to anyone who enjoys blasting around in the Impreza!!
10 February 2003, 11:55 PM
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Cheers! So you just did the geometry, nothing else? Did they say if your old geometry was completly out? I had mine checked and set to Prodrive settings fairly recently so I don't expect to see a huge improvement from geo setting alone. However I do remember feeling like you describe on the first drive after the Prodrive geo settings 
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11 February 2003, 07:55 AM
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the geometry was not completely out at all. It was still well within factory tollerances. Don't know how close to the Prodrive settings though. But yes, that was the only thing I had done!! And for the moment, at least, I won't need anything more.
I don't know about prodrives geometry setup, but I think TSL's is more track biased(?). The miunte amounts TSL can adjust is scary. Something like 1/16th of a degree!!
Give them a call and speak to Graham or Paul to ask for full details if you need them.
I don't know about prodrives geometry setup, but I think TSL's is more track biased(?). The miunte amounts TSL can adjust is scary. Something like 1/16th of a degree!!
Give them a call and speak to Graham or Paul to ask for full details if you need them.
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12 February 2003, 09:09 PM
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I think it would be hard to have geometry outside the factory limits ... my hand book says toe, 0 degrees +/- 3 degrees!!! 
When the Prodrive settings are 1mm toe in (each wheel) that works out at 16.9 minutes on a 16 inch wheel, would be a smaller angle for a 17 and greater for a 15.
I chose my own settings and it made a huge difference even though the original settings were well within tolerance, front offside
-35 mins ,front near side -5.
When the Prodrive settings are 1mm toe in (each wheel) that works out at 16.9 minutes on a 16 inch wheel, would be a smaller angle for a 17 and greater for a 15.
I chose my own settings and it made a huge difference even though the original settings were well within tolerance, front offside
-35 mins ,front near side -5.
13 February 2003, 03:22 PM
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Not sure exactly what bumpsteer is, but reading the powerstation website earlier today it would seem that their bumpsteer mod aims to (and does) the same think as TSL's geometry setup.
The difference is amazing. n the test drive Graham took his hands off he wheel under quite heavy braking and she stayed straight.
For this alone, it's worth it. Even without the advantage of no tramlining and MUCH sharper turn in.
The difference is amazing. n the test drive Graham took his hands off he wheel under quite heavy braking and she stayed straight.
For this alone, it's worth it. Even without the advantage of no tramlining and MUCH sharper turn in.
13 February 2003, 08:39 PM
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Just had mine done by jeff fawkes, ibstock.
I use to get loads of bump steer, power understeer but not even left to right, tracking, alsorts, just crap. Running new 17" speedlines p-zero's new but badly balanced too! I decided jeffs was the place not cheap but well worth it. The wheels were balanced , replaced and the work started on the set-up. They did the check first then before they corrected anything they went through the set-up with me all displayed on the over monitor. Great it was the car was all over the place, The set-up showed the car was crabbing with odd camber settings at the front and toe out, the rear was out with uneven toe out.God knows, not something I've done.
Anyway they sorted the lot, they checked all the susp. for damage and found none so they set it up using prodrive settings but with a slight tweak to my taste.less understeer and nice power oversteer. All taking about 2 and an halve hours.A long time when your waiting for your toy but worth the wait.
OH YES NOW IT'S A SCOOBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!GET IT DONE.
Cheers
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[Edited by wildrider - 2/13/2003 9:02:39 PM]
I use to get loads of bump steer, power understeer but not even left to right, tracking, alsorts, just crap. Running new 17" speedlines p-zero's new but badly balanced too! I decided jeffs was the place not cheap but well worth it. The wheels were balanced , replaced and the work started on the set-up. They did the check first then before they corrected anything they went through the set-up with me all displayed on the over monitor. Great it was the car was all over the place, The set-up showed the car was crabbing with odd camber settings at the front and toe out, the rear was out with uneven toe out.God knows, not something I've done.
Anyway they sorted the lot, they checked all the susp. for damage and found none so they set it up using prodrive settings but with a slight tweak to my taste.less understeer and nice power oversteer. All taking about 2 and an halve hours.A long time when your waiting for your toy but worth the wait.
OH YES NOW IT'S A SCOOBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!GET IT DONE.
Cheers
DoR.
[Edited by wildrider - 2/13/2003 9:02:39 PM]
14 February 2003, 02:01 AM
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Arwe your 17 inch wheels on standard suspension? I've been thinking of 17s , just scared of having to do the whole suspension . And want the bumpsteer done too, grrr.
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14 February 2003, 10:23 AM
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standard suspension, yes and it was great even before the geometry settings... now it's perfect.
There are far too many settings for me to go through and type them all in here... I'll try and scan the page in at work and post it here....
There are far too many settings for me to go through and type them all in here... I'll try and scan the page in at work and post it here....
19 February 2003, 07:35 PM
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currymonster - I scanned it in but it was ****!
Thanks big_ginge for doing the deed to help Mr. Monster.
Slight change of topic subject but what scanne have you got? Mines a naff old HP scanjet flatbed and my sheet was illegible when scanned in.
Thanks big_ginge for doing the deed to help Mr. Monster.
Slight change of topic subject but what scanne have you got? Mines a naff old HP scanjet flatbed and my sheet was illegible when scanned in.
19 February 2003, 08:04 PM
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Were you scanning in greyscale as this would probably be better than colour - also try adjusting the contrast of the image once it's scanned, which should bring the text up a bit.
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nick n jewels - 17" speedline rims with 205/45 tyres....
When I can be arsed (sorry i'm tired) I'll post the settings they use if you're interested. Don't understand a word of it myself, just know what it feels like to drive.
[Edited by darkblueturbo - 2/12/2003 10:43:04 PM]
When I can be arsed (sorry i'm tired) I'll post the settings they use if you're interested. Don't understand a word of it myself, just know what it feels like to drive.
[Edited by darkblueturbo - 2/12/2003 10:43:04 PM]
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