scoobie elf

Is this a stand alone item or do you require a clifford alarm system for this to be added to?

Aztec Performance Ltd

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Stand-alone.

New_scooby_04

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As above, usually around the £200 mark inc fitting. Make sure you get it installed by someone who knows what they're doing though. You don't want to have to enter the code for no reason whilst doing 70mph on the motorway!

NS04

scoobie elf

Anyone reccommend an installer near Manchester?

DevilHimSelf

Just a word of warning, about installing a Blackjax, if you intend to do this, make sure that the blackjack system is compatable with your alarm, and if need be go the whole hog and get the full Clifford alarm system, from vast experience with mine and a few of the our club members, upgrading the alarm is a better option, then just adding a Blackjax, imho.

And if you do get it seperate, please please please get some sort of audible sound to tell you to deactivate it or as above on the motorway the system activates itself and u find your self with no power in the fast lane.

Believe me it has happened.

scoobie elf

Are there any other similar systems that you would reccommend?

DevilHimSelf

TBH Clifford systems are imho the best, as to an installer, take advice from the members here.

Aztec Performance Ltd

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You obviously dont know how the system works. You would not be left without power on the motorway if the system activates.

Cant see how it would conflict with an alarm system either.

Bob

Aztec Performance Ltd

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Best bet is to have it installed by a Clifford Authorised installer. Clifford will be able to advise of the nearest one to you.

Bob

Lord Bass

i recommed car stuff in northwich did a top job on my concept 650 with intellistart and they are authorised installers
www.car-stuff.net
Phone 01606 872727 • Mobile: 07967 817494

wwp8

what about those companies advertised in fastcar/max power

i think its called gap?????

Scooby_Snax

Mine was fitted independently as a stand alone device. You enter the code after starting the engine. If you don't do this then 20 seconds after first pressing the brake pedal (giving the crooks time to drive a safe distance I guess) the system makes the indicators flash - which you can see and hear. If you don't enter the code then after a further 20 seconds the alarm sounds then the third phase is gradual loss of power. The whole system is re-armed if the driver's door is opened while the engine is running - meaning you have to re-enter your code for example when reaching to get your ticket from a barrier when slightly too far away to reach out of the window...

If fitted properly then there should be no way of suddenly losing power without at least 40 seconds of visible and audible warning. I got it fitted as soon as I got the car - mainly for peace of mind against car-key theft. I would definitely do the same on another car.

The only problem I've ever had with it was when reversing I opened the driver door to see if I was too near to a low wall (resetting the system). Then I left the car. A minute later the alarm was blazing and it would not respond to the code. I'd not realised but the system can only be disarmed by the code when the keys are replaced and turned in the ignition (so now you know...)

Lord Bass

I've heard a lot of bad stories about gap as there fitters are mobile and work outside etc IMO the job won't be of the same standrad as going to a workshop to have it done.

DevilHimSelf

Sry Bob, but i dont agree, ever stopped in a motorway service and had the music up loud and forgot to deactivate the blackjax when you rejoined the motorway, have done it twice and the car shuts down, all that you are left with is the alarm sounding, and NO power, Kinda defeats the purpose of having it, if it does not do its job. I have a Clifford G5 Concept650,

and i know how it works seeing as i helped to install it

corradoboy

If it's installed correctly then it takes a feed from the speedo and rev counter senders and won't allow cut out beyond certain parameters, so it should not kill the engine at motorway speeds.

C8 DHC 04WRX

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can't you set new age models so that you have to enter a code before starting the engine? sure i have read this somewhere before?

Aztec Performance Ltd

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dont drive with loud music so cant comment. What I can say is its not supposed to shut down on you. Have it checked by a Clifford fitter. Best not go into all the details here for obvious reasons.

Bob

Abdabz

Where do they put the keycode pad? Im really keen to get one fitted and Scoobie Snax post is very enlightening...
That place in Northwich is only 45mins from mine so will give them a call when I get back from my jollies...
Thx

FirebirdUK

Mine's currently on the centre console by the side of the hand brake...

My last Impreza had the switch under the dashboard (below the interior fusebox).

Scoobyslammed

I've had MY00 2 years now and I got the car with all this fitted too it, my key pad is fitted in one of the blanks next too the fog light switch...
I've touch wood never had any problems... works for me, I'll be having it fitted to my next one without a doubt... wouldn't be without it now...

billgatesconman

I've got the Concept 500 on my Shogun, when i bought it the dealer stated that i should check with my insurance company with regard to having Blackjax enabled, he said some companies will not insure you if it is ?
I didn't enquire just in case they said they wouldn't cover me.
I found mine to be really annoying to be honest, so i've disabled it.

wannaB4

Having Blackjax enabled or remote start fitted will in theory invalidate its Thatcham approval, due to the car being able to start without anyone present and the keys in it, and in the case of Blackjax, the engine being disabled whilst driving.