All your Clifford related queries answered
#1
Hi all,
Having been fulfilling the requirements of members of the ImportingImprezas mailing list since it's inception in 1999 I thought I'd better show my face here on Scoobynet. There may be many members on here that I've installed Clifford security for over the last couple of years who originally came from the ImportingImprezas list too.
For those that don't know me, I own Maximum Impact Auto Audio & Security in Leeds and have been the Leeds Clifford dealer for nigh on eight years now and have been VSIB accredited for almost seven years and am currently the north of England's representative for the VSIB, which hopefully means when it comes to vehicle security and most importantly, the standard to which it is fitted, I know what I'm talking about :-). Thanks to ImportingImprezas, last year alone I personally installed almost fourty Concept 600's in Imprezas and over the years since the Impreza came about, I couldn't say how many variants have passed through Maximum Impact's doors.
Any Clifford related queries, installation or technical related queries, Thatcham/VSIB related queries, (not forgetting bookings of course :-) ) can either be mailed to me, or you're welcome to call 0113 2441448 during office hours and till 2.00 on Saturdays.
Hopefully be hearing from some of you in the near future!
Regards,
Maximilian Pitts B.Eng.Hon
Having been fulfilling the requirements of members of the ImportingImprezas mailing list since it's inception in 1999 I thought I'd better show my face here on Scoobynet. There may be many members on here that I've installed Clifford security for over the last couple of years who originally came from the ImportingImprezas list too.
For those that don't know me, I own Maximum Impact Auto Audio & Security in Leeds and have been the Leeds Clifford dealer for nigh on eight years now and have been VSIB accredited for almost seven years and am currently the north of England's representative for the VSIB, which hopefully means when it comes to vehicle security and most importantly, the standard to which it is fitted, I know what I'm talking about :-). Thanks to ImportingImprezas, last year alone I personally installed almost fourty Concept 600's in Imprezas and over the years since the Impreza came about, I couldn't say how many variants have passed through Maximum Impact's doors.
Any Clifford related queries, installation or technical related queries, Thatcham/VSIB related queries, (not forgetting bookings of course :-) ) can either be mailed to me, or you're welcome to call 0113 2441448 during office hours and till 2.00 on Saturdays.
Hopefully be hearing from some of you in the near future!
Regards,
Maximilian Pitts B.Eng.Hon
#2
Now i have competion, Looking for the loyalty now!!!!!!
Only joking welcome to scoobynet, I own Elite Car Security and have fitted alot of systems to scoobynet members. I am based in Nottingham but cover the hole UK so if you need any decent fitting doing give me a E-Mail.
Only joking welcome to scoobynet, I own Elite Car Security and have fitted alot of systems to scoobynet members. I am based in Nottingham but cover the hole UK so if you need any decent fitting doing give me a E-Mail.
#4
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by chiark:
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The garage door opener works a treat - brilliant stuff.
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Nick.[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
By Garage Door Opener were you implying a Laser Echo 850 or a "real" garage door opener?
Just a thought as I would be interested in real views on Laser Echo 850's performance as I have been considering the purchase of one of these or similar devices.
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The garage door opener works a treat - brilliant stuff.
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Nick.[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
By Garage Door Opener were you implying a Laser Echo 850 or a "real" garage door opener?
Just a thought as I would be interested in real views on Laser Echo 850's performance as I have been considering the purchase of one of these or similar devices.
#5
Hi Chris
I have a Clifford alarm, and Clifford have been making garage door openers for years. However, with the G4 range, their advice is to "Get an Arrow III (entry level) alarm, give it a 12v supply and bodge it".
Max did this for me, and has programmed the "alarm in a box" to accept commands from my existing remote for my car.
It's *very* neat, though not a particularly cheap solution. if you've got a clifford alarm on your car, I'd recommend it.
I'll post a picture of the finished product if interested?
Cheers,
Nick.
I have a Clifford alarm, and Clifford have been making garage door openers for years. However, with the G4 range, their advice is to "Get an Arrow III (entry level) alarm, give it a 12v supply and bodge it".
Max did this for me, and has programmed the "alarm in a box" to accept commands from my existing remote for my car.
It's *very* neat, though not a particularly cheap solution. if you've got a clifford alarm on your car, I'd recommend it.
I'll post a picture of the finished product if interested?
Cheers,
Nick.
#6
> B. Eng. (Hons)
Max,
The garage door opener works a treat - brilliant stuff.
As for the blue ultrabright LED... Shheeeeeeyit it's bright. You can see the thing glowing from outside the garage window at night!
Max has fitted 5 alarms for me personally, from an immobiliser on a Morris Minor to the full monty on my Impreza. Everything has always been faultless. I can't recommend him enough. It's six if you count the garage door opener
He also *really* knows his onions when it comes to clifford kit, so if anyone does have any queries, chances are he'll be able to sort it - or at least tell you what the problem is.
Welcome to the board. Wander across to the ICE section sometime...
And if you read the post, it ain't an advert, it's an offer of help
Nick.
Max,
The garage door opener works a treat - brilliant stuff.
As for the blue ultrabright LED... Shheeeeeeyit it's bright. You can see the thing glowing from outside the garage window at night!
Max has fitted 5 alarms for me personally, from an immobiliser on a Morris Minor to the full monty on my Impreza. Everything has always been faultless. I can't recommend him enough. It's six if you count the garage door opener
He also *really* knows his onions when it comes to clifford kit, so if anyone does have any queries, chances are he'll be able to sort it - or at least tell you what the problem is.
Welcome to the board. Wander across to the ICE section sometime...
And if you read the post, it ain't an advert, it's an offer of help
Nick.
#7
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I have a 50x and after getting used to it and having a mess about with the different settings, I have noticed that when the alarm goes off it has a different pattern, it used to go into about five different noises and now on two, also when you go into fitter mode (ie. 5&5 to alter proximity) what other setting are they're. cheers
What can I add to this alarm and what cost.
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What can I add to this alarm and what cost.
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Max, Craig,
I am having a Clifford Concept 300 installed on my car (Craig) shortly and thought it wise to check out the alarm features on the Clifford website.
It mentions on the specification that this alarm is capable of doing a turbo timer function. Is this a main function of the alarm, or do you need to purchase an additional clifford module. Most importantly however, how does having this module installed effect the Thatcham 1 approval, if at all.
Thanks in advance,
Karlos
I am having a Clifford Concept 300 installed on my car (Craig) shortly and thought it wise to check out the alarm features on the Clifford website.
It mentions on the specification that this alarm is capable of doing a turbo timer function. Is this a main function of the alarm, or do you need to purchase an additional clifford module. Most importantly however, how does having this module installed effect the Thatcham 1 approval, if at all.
Thanks in advance,
Karlos
#9
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Max - another question for ya....
I've set up the Proximity sensor on my concept 300 (in centre console) and all seems to work fine.
i.e it goes of if you are in the car and doesn't when you walk around the car tapping the windows and waving etc...etc...
However, everytime I close or open my garage door with the car inside it seems to trigger the alarm ??????
I don't think there is alot more adjustment on the sensor. Is it a sudden change of light type thing that sets it off.
I've set up the Proximity sensor on my concept 300 (in centre console) and all seems to work fine.
i.e it goes of if you are in the car and doesn't when you walk around the car tapping the windows and waving etc...etc...
However, everytime I close or open my garage door with the car inside it seems to trigger the alarm ??????
I don't think there is alot more adjustment on the sensor. Is it a sudden change of light type thing that sets it off.
#10
Hi max, I have a clifford cat2 imobiliser fitted to my car. The light flashes till i
insert the jack and pull out, then all power
comes on. no pun intended. The problem i'm
having is that my car battery had run out of power so it sat there for over a month.
Now that i have jumped started the car the
clifford alarm works ok but my imobiliser
light keep flashing after the dissarming
process. Is there a time delay for the
immobiliser to work again. there is a switch
underneath the socket unit which i pressed but nothing happened . Any thoughts ?
insert the jack and pull out, then all power
comes on. no pun intended. The problem i'm
having is that my car battery had run out of power so it sat there for over a month.
Now that i have jumped started the car the
clifford alarm works ok but my imobiliser
light keep flashing after the dissarming
process. Is there a time delay for the
immobiliser to work again. there is a switch
underneath the socket unit which i pressed but nothing happened . Any thoughts ?
#12
go on then:
on the concept 600, the very useful 'auto lock rpm' option seems to randomly pick an rpm at which to lock (always over 4000).
the cliffnet wizard book suggests that this can be changed, but there's no option to do so.
clifford say its not possible unless you have the autostart feature.
any way of changin it to lock at about 1500rpm??
on the concept 600, the very useful 'auto lock rpm' option seems to randomly pick an rpm at which to lock (always over 4000).
the cliffnet wizard book suggests that this can be changed, but there's no option to do so.
clifford say its not possible unless you have the autostart feature.
any way of changin it to lock at about 1500rpm??
#13
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by kenny.c:
<B>Hi max, I have a clifford cat2 imobiliser fitted to my car. The light flashes till i
insert the jack and pull out, then all power
comes on. no pun intended. The problem i'm
having is that my car battery had run out of power so it sat there for over a month.
Now that i have jumped started the car the
clifford alarm works ok but my imobiliser
light keep flashing after the dissarming
process. Is there a time delay for the
immobiliser to work again. there is a switch
underneath the socket unit which i pressed but nothing happened . Any thoughts ?[/quote]
<B>Hi max, I have a clifford cat2 imobiliser fitted to my car. The light flashes till i
insert the jack and pull out, then all power
comes on. no pun intended. The problem i'm
having is that my car battery had run out of power so it sat there for over a month.
Now that i have jumped started the car the
clifford alarm works ok but my imobiliser
light keep flashing after the dissarming
process. Is there a time delay for the
immobiliser to work again. there is a switch
underneath the socket unit which i pressed but nothing happened . Any thoughts ?[/quote]
#14
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by kenny.c:
<B>Hi max, I have a clifford cat2 imobiliser fitted to my car. The light flashes till i
insert the jack and pull out, then all power
comes on. no pun intended. The problem i'm
having is that my car battery had run out of power so it sat there for over a month.
Now that i have jumped started the car the
clifford alarm works ok but my imobiliser
light keep flashing after the dissarming
process. Is there a time delay for the
immobiliser to work again. there is a switch
underneath the socket unit which i pressed but nothing happened . Any thoughts ?[/quote]
Hi Kenny,
If you're saying the red light on the immobiliser is flashing, inserting the key and removing it doesn't cause it to stop flashing and the car still starts would indicate that your immobiliser has developed a fault. One possibility is that when you jump started the car (not a nice thing to do when there is Clifford equipment on there) the immobiliser processor has 'locked up'. You may be able to reset it by disconnecting the battery, leaving it off a minute, then reconnect it. If there is still a fault, take it back to your local Clifford dealer and they'll check it out for you. The little button underneath the socket is for use during the key programming procedure.
Regards,
Max
<B>Hi max, I have a clifford cat2 imobiliser fitted to my car. The light flashes till i
insert the jack and pull out, then all power
comes on. no pun intended. The problem i'm
having is that my car battery had run out of power so it sat there for over a month.
Now that i have jumped started the car the
clifford alarm works ok but my imobiliser
light keep flashing after the dissarming
process. Is there a time delay for the
immobiliser to work again. there is a switch
underneath the socket unit which i pressed but nothing happened . Any thoughts ?[/quote]
Hi Kenny,
If you're saying the red light on the immobiliser is flashing, inserting the key and removing it doesn't cause it to stop flashing and the car still starts would indicate that your immobiliser has developed a fault. One possibility is that when you jump started the car (not a nice thing to do when there is Clifford equipment on there) the immobiliser processor has 'locked up'. You may be able to reset it by disconnecting the battery, leaving it off a minute, then reconnect it. If there is still a fault, take it back to your local Clifford dealer and they'll check it out for you. The little button underneath the socket is for use during the key programming procedure.
Regards,
Max
#15
The threshold for rpm sensing is fixed I'm afraid. Your installer will have programmed the reference rpm and this is done by idling the engine and having the alarm register the speed. This is an installer only setting and is required to be the idle speed for blackjax to figure out what is a safe speed at which to cut the engine. Presumably it does this as a multiple of the idle speed. Generally, I simply set the autolock feature to 'instant' because on many cars, the engine revs have to be quite high before the doors lock. As for only being able to change what rpm the doors lock at if you have the intellistart system added, I've not noticed that feature. I'll have to check on the Wizard software if it's in a menu I haven't seen :-)
Regards,
Max
Regards,
Max
#16
But wouldn't resetting the idle to a very low value inhibit the BlackJax cutting the engine - I thought that the 'idle' rpm was the point that BlackJax knew it was safe to cut the engine out??
Sometimes it will lock at 3500, sometimes not until 4500. Its now on Autolock but that gives me the garage door problem I mentioned before.
Anyone got the IntelliStart? What do you reckon to it?
As for the Clifford software - The interface isn't too hot.....
Sometimes it will lock at 3500, sometimes not until 4500. Its now on Autolock but that gives me the garage door problem I mentioned before.
Anyone got the IntelliStart? What do you reckon to it?
As for the Clifford software - The interface isn't too hot.....
#17
What you can do, and I hope I'm right here but no doubt Max will correct me, is re-set the value at which the car idles. Car the car nice and hot, and it'll idle around 800.
We tried doing this on my car, but the lock still kicked in at 3500 rpm or so.
Consequently, it's set to autolock, which should lock the doors 5 seconds after ignition is turned on.
Unless the new Clifford software that you got the other day has something on it?
We tried doing this on my car, but the lock still kicked in at 3500 rpm or so.
Consequently, it's set to autolock, which should lock the doors 5 seconds after ignition is turned on.
Unless the new Clifford software that you got the other day has something on it?
#18
Thanks Max.
Its just a real pain.
If I set it to RPM based, it doesn't trigger round town.
If I set it to instant:
a) it locks after the ignition is turned on - on my concept 50 it was after you start the engine
b) when I drive the car out of the garage, get out, close garage door, drive away - it remains unlocked.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Pg 19 of the manual:
<B>Optional Cliffnet Wizard</B>
adjust the RPM level at which the vehicle doors Autolock (something not possible via the standard palinview 2 switch)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Very confusing! Though if it is an option with the Intellistart, I just may have to have one fitted
Its just a real pain.
If I set it to RPM based, it doesn't trigger round town.
If I set it to instant:
a) it locks after the ignition is turned on - on my concept 50 it was after you start the engine
b) when I drive the car out of the garage, get out, close garage door, drive away - it remains unlocked.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Pg 19 of the manual:
<B>Optional Cliffnet Wizard</B>
adjust the RPM level at which the vehicle doors Autolock (something not possible via the standard palinview 2 switch)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Very confusing! Though if it is an option with the Intellistart, I just may have to have one fitted
#19
Yes, having a lower rpm threshold will mean that blackjax won't cut the engine till the rpms slow to a lower value than previously, but as I've mentioned in an earlier posting, this is some kind of multiple of the stored idle value. I wouldn't worry about it affecting Blackjax's operation, but as Nick mentioned, it makes little difference to the speed at which the doors lock. If you do get intellistart, it is possible to program how many pulses per revolution the rpm sensing connection is seeing and so fool the clifford processor into how many rpm's it is seeing. After all, it's only bothereed about how many pulses per second it's seeing and what the pulses per second are for an idle value. Rpm's are just what your rev counter tells you as you can understand rpm better than pps, whereas the alarm just counts how many pulses it sees in a second. Anyway, I'm rambling now and am probably becoming unintelligible in my explanation :-)
#20
I also might add that it's not an exact measurement that the alarm's processor makes and it takes a second or two for it to take sample readings of pulse rates, so if you're revving the engine up and down to see when it locks the doors, it might explain why you're seeing it happen between 3500 and 4500. The best way is to rev it gently, slowly increasing the revs to see at which point the doors lock
#22
It disables the AutoArming for one cycle. The example given is while refuelling but that seems like the most sensible time for it to arm, especially as you're likely to have valuables, phone etc still in the car!!
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