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Old 10 August 2013, 09:21 PM
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Hi all,

Neil here from staffs. Thinking about getting a WR1. I have about 10k to spend.

I am totally new to the Subaru scene so wanted your opinion.

If you had 10k would you buy a WR1 or another model? I have a lot to learn so sorry for the initial questions :-)

Thanks
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Old 10 August 2013, 09:25 PM
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another model, not keen on the colour

an 05 sti is a better spec and cheaper too, or JDM sti
Old 10 August 2013, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by thenewgalaxy
If you want my opinion on the WR1 it's a great car in isolation but the standard WRX STi PPP DCCD that came out months later is a better car and what I would go for, unless you want to modify in which case any Newage can be tuned to make an awesome machine, it depends if you want single scroll, twin scroll, 2.0 or forged 2.5...
Quoting myself there.

Go for an MY05 STi PPP with the DCCD if you want the best version of the car. Plenty available.

If you are not fussed, don't waste the extra cash on the divisive colour scheme when you could save a few bob going for a standard MY03-04 car.

People will pop up and start saying get a JDM car etc etc but if you are after a UK car the MY05 is the one to go for.
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WR1 is a good car and if you're into limited edition cars it will be worth spending the extra on. They have an owners club and get together at shows ect. If you're not bothered about limited editions your money may be better spent on an run of the mill STi wide track blob.
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Overpriced STi.
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Personally I would just get a Blobeye STI widetrack and use any left over for tweaks.
I don't like the WR1 colour either

Few opinions in here mate

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...-100-time.html
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Originally Posted by poolio74
Overpriced STi.
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Spoken like a true enthusiast.
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10k will be a nicely sorted Widetrack (2005 blobeye) or perhaps a JDM version.

Both better specced than a WR1 but without the exclusivity.
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Originally Posted by chopperman
Spoken like a true enthusiast.
Ive been rumbled
Old 10 August 2013, 09:35 PM
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10K would get you a very nice blob STi or Hawkeye if you fancy a newer model!
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Originally Posted by poolio74
Ive been rumbled
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Originally Posted by Pazza81
...or Hawkeye if you fancy a newer model!
Yeah just factor in £3k for the engine build when the 2.5 in the Hawk explodes!

If you get one for £7k you're in budget
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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...-vent/1483137#


http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...-turbo/1582087


http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...d-2003/1555764


http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...torque/1589667



All these are around your budget and would get my vote over a WR1.
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I like the WR1, but i'd rather a Spec C. Matty has picked out a few good en's
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Wow - thanks guys, great response. This does obviously raise more questions than answers. However it looks like the general consensus is the WR1 is overpriced and the later model in the 05 is better (I am not too sure why better - is it quicker? or have a better engine? or just better overall spec?).

Not knowing ANYTHING about the Scooby world, i was going on pure looks initially and I like the WR! looks and colour (I know not everyone does - the world would be boring if we all liked the same).

So, now that I am armed with a bit more information, I will trawl the net and this site to get a better idea of what I am getting into. Might be worth spending 6-7k on a standard beauty, then use that as a base to make it my own. I am seriously thinking of doing this now.....

I know people have their personal preferences, same on any car forum, but it does look like the general consensus is any model is good, there are none that should really be avoided - for the price I am looking at.


decisions, decisions.....

Below I have responded to each of you - thanks so much for taking the time.

cheers
Neil


Originally Posted by Pazza81
10K would get you a very nice blob STi or Hawkeye if you fancy a newer model!
need to understand the terminology here - is Blob referencing the shape of the headlights?




Awesome, thank you. love how my £10K turned into a higher number . Out of interest, while looking at the list here - what is the consensus on MILEAGE - should I be looking for as LOW as possible, over spec and age? or can I get a 70-80k mileage car and it be still be strong etc (assuming full service etc)?




Originally Posted by mnem1c
I like the WR1, but i'd rather a Spec C. Matty has picked out a few good en's
Looking at the Spec C, I understand this is a import and more race spec, less creature comforts, thinner glass&paint etc. So do people go for the Spec C just for the speed and additional .xx on the 0-60time? I am just trying to understand the lure of the Spec C.
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The year 2000 onwards 'New Age' cars are known by their headlight shape:

2000 - 2002 'Bugeye' or just 'Bug'.
2002 - 2005 'Blobeye' or 'Blob'
2005 - 2008 'Hawkeye' or 'Hawk' (the 2.5 litre engines are fragile though)
2008 - 2011 'Hatch' (not the headlight shape)
2011 onwards, er, no idea!

Pre-2000 they're all known as 'Classics'.

The Spec C is lighter and will be based on a Japanese Domestic Market (JDM) car which has a stronger engine, usually more powerful than the UK market cars as standard, and as you say, has less creature comforts to save the weight.

If you want exclusivity, your £10,000 might just get you a Litchfield Type 20 Blob, although they're very rare. Google 'Litchfield Imports' to find out more.
Old 11 August 2013, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Osimabu
The year 2000 onwards 'New Age' cars are known by their headlight shape:

2000 - 2002 'Bugeye' or just 'Bug'.
2002 - 2005 'Blobeye' or 'Blob'
2005 - 2008 'Hawkeye' or 'Hawk' (the 2.5 litre engines are fragile though)
2008 - 2011 'Hatch' (not the headlight shape)
2011 onwards, er, no idea!

Pre-2000 they're all known as 'Classics'.

The Spec C is lighter and will be based on a Japanese Domestic Market (JDM) car which has a stronger engine, usually more powerful than the UK market cars as standard, and as you say, has less creature comforts to save the weight.

If you want exclusivity, your £10,000 might just get you a Litchfield Type 20 Blob, although they're very rare. Google 'Litchfield Imports' to find out more.
excellent - thanks. this is useful.
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Chaps, I have been thinking about my approach and have slightly changed my starting point.

I have found this and wondered your thoughts. Hopefully a good solid car I can then make my own mods etc.

wrx sti prodrive
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I'd buy this one:

https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-444...m-blobeye.html
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the only thing on the wr1 worth having is the black interior.
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Originally Posted by LordG
Chaps, I have been thinking about my approach and have slightly changed my starting point.

I have found this and wondered your thoughts. Hopefully a good solid car I can then make my own mods etc.

wrx sti prodrive
Thats too expensive imo, but it is from a dealer so suppose you expect a premium.

A pal recently sold a 54 plate sti with ppp but with uprated ARB's and 51K for £6500.
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8k is a bit overpriced but depends if you get a decent warranty I guess but its a dealer so expect to get a bit raped

its the bullsh*t premium, no doubt owned by a vicar too
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Originally Posted by Osimabu
I have seen this and absolutely love it, within price, but it is 350miles away (6 hour drive) - long to go to find the car is not for you.


Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Thats too expensive imo, but it is from a dealer so suppose you expect a premium.

A pal recently sold a 54 plate sti with ppp but with uprated ARB's and 51K for £6500.
yes, agreed - just wanted to see if this is the type of car people are generally recommending as good entry point. It is too expensive and have too many miles for me.


Originally Posted by tubbytommy
8k is a bit overpriced but depends if you get a decent warranty I guess but its a dealer so expect to get a bit raped

its the bullsh*t premium, no doubt owned by a vicar too
yup - the normal 'by with confidence' - lol
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Originally Posted by LordG
I have seen this and absolutely love it, within price, but it is 350miles away (6 hour drive) - long to go to find the car is not for you. l

Jump on the train. You'll rarely find your perfect car on your doorstep.
A car purchase is a big deal and a large amount of money, if a £50 train journey is what it takes then so be it.
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as matty says you need to invest a bit of time and money, I looked at ten plus cars before buying mine also don't let mileage put you off as service history and general condition is more important.
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thanks Guys - just sent BigBaz a PM about his car. Train still takes 5 hours!

Never a dull moment in the world of cars and new toys!


*just called Barry - it is sold :-( ..... back to the drawing board...

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After owning a WR1 and a Spec C there's only one winner. And it's not the baby blue one.
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Originally Posted by LordG

*just called Barry - it is sold :-( ..... back to the drawing board...
I'm not at all surprised, it was way, way too cheap. Keep hunting though. As others have said, you have to be prepared to go a long way and be patient. Mine took me six months to find but it was well worth waiting.
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thanks guys.

Just been speaking to the guy who owns this, nice low miles and looks like it could be a good base.

bugeye-wrx-sti-type-uk-prodrive-style-2002

Having spoken to him there are a couple of paint nicks, and a new stereo need (no problem). FSH all else looks good, and on the phone he will take 7k. going to see it Wednesday.

this gives me some spare cash to get things done....
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7k, I bet he fecking will.............................

id offer 5 mate as that's more realistic


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