Mud dog

I have taken out a fq 300 standard 7 and I thought it was great part from the interior, and I have looked at a few scoobs a 2002 sti which wS nice aswell, I have abt 7 grand to spend but I wana keep abit for maitence and unforseen breakages, my question is wat wud u consider to be the better car, in terms of running 400/400 fast road eventually lol, Im not really fussed on a minter, just a good honest car, as I know already how hard it is to keep a car mint on the roads. Any previous owners to give their opinions of either car would be very helpful, thanks

ditchmyster

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I think it's easier to get the Evo to 400bhp, but they cost a bit more to buy, but i'd say it's much of a muchness and just buy the best example that pops up at the right money, which ever marque that may be.

jayallen

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400 is pushing the stock evo rods yet the bug will do 400 with ease......To be honest, bug sti vs Evo7 is a very tough call.

The price bug sti's can be picked up for IMO makes them pound for pound probably the best Impreza you can buy if you are looking at tuning.

jameswrx

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I'd go bugeye sti, get a JDM.

The evo's are absolute rot boxes.

The Impreza will feel quicker pound for pound too.

And I'm not just saying it because this is an Impreza forum! I've had experience of both.

jameswrx

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As jay says, the price of bug sti's make them amazing value pound for pound.

Mud dog

Wats the difference between the jdm bug sti and the uk Sti, I have traders insurance so the import won't actually cost me anything extra to put on my policy

Moley

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I think the Evo 7 is thought of as one of the weaker Evo's (although I've always liked them)

Personally I'd be looking for a mint Evo 6 or the STI.... more than likely the STI

Osimabu

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You get a rear wiper on the JDM Bug (& other less important benefits such as a stronger and slightly more powerful engine!)

Watch out for rust on them too though, especially underneath on the front subframe.

Mud dog

R they jdms hard to get with service history sorry if this is a stupid question cuz I can't read Japanese anyway lol

wrx fifer

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as above, have had both previously although was an 8 fq340 but also but heard the 7's were weaker and rods in particular, but had the prodrive style bug sti which is a cracking model with forged internals as standard or a jdm bug sti both will take 400bhp no problem with minor work and mapping, so for me would be one of the above bug models all day long.

Grant

mantazini

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JDM bugs rules

mantazini

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Only jdm bugs had forged pistons as standart and more aggressive heads .

tubbytommy

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no forged pistons in jdm sti, another jdm myth.

have got big port heads though

mantazini

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the early cars had Dan, 2001 ... i have a pdf file somewhere at home will have to dig out ... Thats why they call it the strongest new age engine..

wrx fifer

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yeah I agree the normal bug sti or even the bug sti with ppp never had forged pistons but the prodrive style model did, as it was never a ltd edition as such but basically was as there was only so many made, check on the prodrive style thread am sure it comes up, also the only model from those days that states prodrive on the v5 certificate, unless others did I am not aware of

Grant

mantazini

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Prodrive style bug was a jdm model also in japan and here in uk ... but uk cars didnt had any of that... Its difficult to comment as there were so many talks , opinions on this, but i had found a engine spec , transmission , lsd list on nasioc when did my home work before i got mine... And as long as i remember it said different things were , rev limiter, internals, and more aggressive heads , 5th and 6th gears shorter, HIDs ... Spring rate and maybe im still missing smtn...

jayallen

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All bug sti's had forged pistons, Subaru move onto hypereutectic pistons with the blob sti.....rods are also the same.

The JDM bug engine is no different to the UK engine bar the cams......I've stripped 2 JDM bug engines to date and neither had big port heads which I found a strange.

jameswrx

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Strange. My JDM bugeye had large port heads. Was a late 2002 model. I removed them myself and compared them directly to uk heads. My engine was certainly original as I've removed and stripped enough to see the signs people leave.

I sold them to someone who'd been searching for large port heads for ages and had been sold a couple of sets via ebay that turned out to be non large port (although listed as so)

My car was like a different animal to a uk bug, it just felt much more aggressive.

Cpt Jack Sparrow

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I had an EVO VII and now have a hawk WRX and my view even with the 2.5's failing it is going to have on me as some point, as a pair of cars I much prefer the Scooby.

I find it easier to drive better on fuel and smoother on acceleration. Mods on both cars were exactly the same, filter and exhaust .





Paul

tubbytommy

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not really equivalent cars, the evo is a much better drive than a wrx hawk. for starters it has proper brakes and suspension fitted,

the wrx may be more comfortable on the road but as a performance car the evo would kill a wrx impreza.

Cpt Jack Sparrow

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Strange but I have had them both and have to disagree

tubbytommy

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fair enough but the brakes and suspension are not up to the job on a wrx, the evo has brembo's and better suspension.

the wrx will be a comfortable everyday car but the evo will be much faster on a b road blast.

I have also owned evos and wrx and sti impreza's

oh is yours an sti, I notice the sti stickers and grill badge

Cpt Jack Sparrow

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Rumbled. What was that about HAWK eyes

mantazini

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Thats the best answer you can get i recon..When someone actually has touched the bloody thing and see whats what ....

jayallen

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Maybe the only explanation is both cars had an engine change at some point in their UK history, fitted with a UK long engine.

I do know that the Subaru part number for bug sti heads( I think its the same with the blobs) is the same whether UK or JDM, so I guess any machine work to the JDM heads must not been done in house at STI.

EssexJamie

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I'd personally go for the STi Bug or an Evo VI, I love the looks of the STi bug over an Evo.
But the Evo is a great car, you really need to test drive a few of the cars and see what matches what you want out of the car.

Mud dog

Thanks for the replies, I love that yellow evo, is ther any jdms up for sale on site, I'm liking the sound of the stronger engine over the evo, I know I wud b happy in either car, they all seem so fast to me lol, does it take long for the modding bug to kick in? Can you get a black jdm bug sti?

EssexJamie

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This is tasty https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-444...-for-sale.html

wrx scooby wrx

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That looks nice mate what front splitter is that ?

EssexJamie

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Is that not just the standard STI/PPP splitter as that's whats on my UK300 Bug