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Old 04 August 2013, 12:57 AM
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Hi guys. Ive got a 2003 bug eye and am just wondering what dash lights are ment to come up on start up ie appear then disappear. In particular does the engine management light come up. Picked up a fault code through torque app which could apparently turn on the check light but hadnt. This got me thinking havent seen it on start up. Any idears
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Old 04 August 2013, 01:03 AM
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bulb been took out?
Old 04 August 2013, 10:27 AM
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Yeah it should light up , and dont think you can remove that bulb. Maybe its been taped over ?
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I dont think I see this light on startup, on my 2002 wrx.

Think I will pop outside and check in a minute.
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I just checked and I dont have Check engine light.

I see: malficition (sic) indicator light, oil pressure light, battery, abs, brake (handbrake) and airbag. hth
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where that check engine light is, thats where i have the funny engine light symbol, can see it if i look closely, doesnt show on start up though and as said have picked up a PO558 break booster sensor circuit high, fault through torque app and light isnt showing. if you cant take the bulb out how do you change if blown??
cheers for your help guys.
need the brakes looked at anyway. getting a whistling sound when driving and a creaking at the wheels you pump the brake pedel when stoped and engine running or engine off, with both of them and the fault code, (although that seems electrical) needs a good going over, just trying to find the time.
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I'd hazard a guess that if you remove the clocks and then the front plastic part of the clocks and then lift up the black facia... the recess where the bulb is will have something in it to stop the light showing through, Wouldn't be the first time I've seen it.
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Odd point to make here, but can't you "delete" this functionality (CEL) with a flash?

And isn't it the Bugs that suffer random phantom misfire codes?

I say this because if that's the case; it could've been that a previous owner had the CEL turned off due to phantom misfires.


I could also be talking out of my bottom!
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Originally Posted by Frenchwood
Odd point to make here, but can't you "delete" this functionality (CEL) with a flash?

And isn't it the Bugs that suffer random phantom misfire codes?

I say this because if that's the case; it could've been that a previous owner had the CEL turned off due to phantom misfires.


I could also be talking out of my bottom!
I know that when I get a remap, the warning lights rated to my lack of cats will be deleted. Not sure if the light can be switched off completely but I did here that it can be programmed to flash the cel on dry so I suppose anything is possible.
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Mine lights up on start-up.
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You can delete codes from the Ecu to stop the engine light coming on but as far as I know you can't disable the light without physically tampering with it.

Yes the bugs had a recurring cel for camshaft sensor i think it was...mainly in higher rev range but the problem being if you disable it totally you never know if you have a real issue and this could be fatal for the engine.

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Originally Posted by GAZ2293
You can delete codes from the Ecu to stop the engine light coming on but as far as I know you can't disable the light without physically tampering with it.

Yes the bugs had a recurring cel for camshaft sensor i think it was...mainly in higher rev range but the problem being if you disable it totally you never know if you have a real issue and this could be fatal for the engine.
I knew the CEL was something along those lines!

I can't honestly see how it could be deleted without having a piggy-back/standalone/a n other ECU fitted, that doesn't necessarily mean it can't be done though, there are some very clever ECU type people out there! lol
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Or its been blanked/removed/by passed to hide problems.
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Took it apart earlier n have a loose solder connection on the back. Will ger the soldering gun out and try to fix. Cheers for all your help though. Niw just trying to find out about PO558 brake booster circuit ect. Any takers on that one. Cheers Ross
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Originally Posted by rossberry
Took it apart earlier n have a loose solder connection on the back. Will ger the soldering gun out and try to fix. Cheers for all your help though. Niw just trying to find out about PO558 brake booster circuit ect. Any takers on that one. Cheers Ross
Try checking the alternator charge voltage. I remember reading on here only a couple of days ago that a guy had this same code and it turned out to be alternator was charging below 14v

Search P0558 on here and you should find it.

Falling that, it's a vacuum pressure sensor that would ordinarily trigger this IIRC.
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Cheers mate
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