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Old 17 December 2012, 10:03 PM
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to say I'm gutted don't come close run the car in for 1200 mils had it mapped made 543 bhp happy days on the you home up pipe and headers gasket s started to blow and went lumpy so got new one fitted still lumpy had Simon come out (top man) to week map turns out not a easy fix cars only running on 3 cylinder s feel like I've had a nuff now ;-( hope it's just an injector but don't think I'm that lucky next step compression test ;-(
Old 17 December 2012, 10:23 PM
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That's some bad news there chap,are you thinking its the engine goosed?
Old 17 December 2012, 10:29 PM
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hope not only done 1400 mils since rebuild and 150 of them after map
Old 17 December 2012, 10:51 PM
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Hopefully only something minor hope you get it sorted
Old 17 December 2012, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobygaz1
Hopefully only something minor hope you get it sorted
hopefully ;-)
Old 17 December 2012, 10:56 PM
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Same happened to me 6 weeks ago i built a 2.1 stroker did 2700 miles ring and back few sprints and gaskets went studs to week,Re faced block heads new studs gaskets acl bearings bottom end re build kit still 2ks worth
Old 17 December 2012, 10:58 PM
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500+ BHP out of an engine designed to run reliably up to 350BHP .... what could possibly go wrong?
Old 17 December 2012, 11:00 PM
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Let us know how you get on, Any idea when you`ll do the compression test ?
Old 17 December 2012, 11:09 PM
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this week some time Thursday / Friday
Old 17 December 2012, 11:11 PM
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I'd expect more than a safe 350 out of a 2.35 engine
Old 17 December 2012, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
500+ BHP out of an engine designed to run reliably up to 350BHP .... what could possibly go wrong?
That's well out of order
Old 17 December 2012, 11:49 PM
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Bad news gooner , I personally would have given it more than 1500 , all it takes is a weak component , or a bad build / hope it's an easy fix for you fingers x
Old 17 December 2012, 11:52 PM
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thanks jazz
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That's really bad luck matey,hope you get this sorted

Good luck there

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Old 18 December 2012, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jazzyjembreaze
Bad news gooner , I personally would have given it more than 1500 , all it takes is a weak component , or a bad build / hope it's an easy fix for you fingers x
mine wwas ran in for 1000 miles before full map. Lets hope is something simple
Old 18 December 2012, 12:46 AM
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Mine was mapped to 2.1 bar boost within 600 miles of a brand new build.

All this softly softly rubbish is for people who don't understand modern engineering and build processes in engines. Running in should be a mixture of revs and load cycles.

Have you ever seen a brand new car being driven off a production line? Ragged? Lol
Or seen an engine started on a dyno and held a full load WOT for 1000 hours?

A build issue will almost certainly highlight itself within 20 min of initial startup.

Hope this is a easy fix Darren, nothing to do with your running in mileage IMO.
Old 18 December 2012, 12:55 AM
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cheers Frayz
Old 18 December 2012, 01:17 AM
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Why wait till 600 then ^
Should have nailed it from word go , if it was all that & ( scripture)
I ran mine to 2500 in blocks of 800 with diff load
& how is it my R8 was capped on del til first service ?
Old 18 December 2012, 03:58 AM
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totally agree with frayz, every new vehicle and motorcycle I have owned I have thrashed the *** off it and ran it in cycles of high load, low load, WOT, etc etc, as a result every vehicle / bike Ive owned has had a strong reliable motor.
Old 18 December 2012, 05:49 AM
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Really ? I'm not on here to be arrogant , but were goin into bikes & all sorts of new
What kind of mileage you run your bikes & what type ?
I have a blade 99 last of carb gen with 70,000 on , 3 gearboxes 2 full rebuilds
Also a husqvarna sm610 supermoto single cylinder 576 displacement wich had a very strict bed in period / sure you probably get better oil consumption when shorter run inn periods are addresed , but when were talking new products its also about gearboxes & other components / back to topic
I hope gooner has a easy fix &! It prob has nothing to do with his bed inn procedure
At the end of day all vehicles are diff & require diff care & attention
Old 18 December 2012, 06:15 AM
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we could go around in circles for hours on this, and its off topic, so lets not :-)
Old 18 December 2012, 07:16 AM
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Sorry to hear this Gooner and hope its a simple fix.
Old 18 December 2012, 07:41 AM
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Hope you get it sorted and its something simple.
Old 18 December 2012, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
500+ BHP out of an engine designed to run reliably up to 350BHP .... what could possibly go wrong?
You really are a prat aren't you

Not that this engine has anything to do with us, but I'm sure IT was designed for a bit more than the stock engine was

Best of luck gooner, hope you get it sorted
Old 18 December 2012, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Mine was mapped to 2.1 bar boost within 600 miles of a brand new build.

All this softly softly rubbish is for people who don't understand modern engineering and build processes in engines. Running in should be a mixture of revs and load cycles.

Have you ever seen a brand new car being driven off a production line? Ragged? Lol
Or seen an engine started on a dyno and held a full load WOT for 1000 hours?

A build issue will almost certainly highlight itself within 20 min of initial startup.

Hope this is a easy fix Darren, nothing to do with your running in mileage IMO.
lol beat you, 50miles then give it wot for, but my pistons were already bedded
in.

Heard this a lot over the years, and seen it with 3 identical new cars, the 2 that were molly coddeled were nothing but trouble, the one that was thrashed from day one ran faultless, also i've done it on bike.

I'm now a believer, if it's gona go pop it will do it not long after start up, so it's probably not a major build issue.

Fingers crossed for you mate.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
500+ BHP out of an engine designed to run reliably up to 350BHP .... what could possibly go wrong?
Originally Posted by MartynJ
You really are a prat aren't you
Now you know what the "p" stands for Martyn. Have a guess what the "s" stands for?

Laughing at someones misfortune over an engine build. Not a nice thing to do in my opinion...
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Originally Posted by jazzyjembreaze
Why wait till 600 then ^
Should have nailed it from word go , if it was all that & ( scripture)
I ran mine to 2500 in blocks of 800 with diff load
& how is it my R8 was capped on del til first service ?
Because it was initially run on mineral oil of which won't take the heat of a full boost WOT run without breaking down.
Enough to cycle the engine oil to flush the metallics out of the system. By 250 miles it had Motul 300V in it.
I reached 600 miles because that was how many miles it had done before my mapper had a free date to map it.

I'm a prototype engine builder for a big motor manufacturer. I only work on development engines an have done so for the last 12 years.
A build issue will show its head very very quickly.
Certainly within 50/100 miles, or 20min or so on the dyno.

So Gooners cars running in period is not in question IMO.

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Old 18 December 2012, 10:27 AM
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Hope it's nothing serious mate had my fair share of engine troubles too know the feeling of dread very well.
Old 18 December 2012, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammer man
Now you know what the "p" stands for Martyn. Have a guess what the "s" stands for?

Laughing at someones misfortune over an engine build. Not a nice thing to do in my opinion...
Post **** Lewis?

Dont take the bait. Hes only on here when he feels down about his oil burning grandad wagon.


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