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Old 03 November 2012, 09:12 AM
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Hi folks,

I'm in Scotland near Glasgow and it feels a bit colder now.

Is it cold enough for my winter tyres to go on yet?

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Old 03 November 2012, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by CHUCKblue
Hi folks,

I'm in Scotland near Glasgow and it feels a bit colder now.

Is it cold enough for my winter tyres to go on yet?

Dan x
Yeah why not, you won't get caught out then, and gives the tryes a chance to run in and open up a bit for the season.
Old 03 November 2012, 09:54 AM
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They normally say if the temps are constantly below 11 deg C then it's time to fit winter tyres.
Old 03 November 2012, 10:03 AM
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Definitely in Scotland. I've had them on my daily drive for 3 weeks now. I don't think it's been over 7c on the morning commute in that time. -4c here this morning.
Old 03 November 2012, 10:33 AM
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Fitted mine this week, But Its not as cold here. First time I drove with them for a while and got a 4 wheel slid when pulling out of a juction, they aren't as sticky as my yoko's
Old 03 November 2012, 11:55 AM
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I'm now running about in a vectra cdti 150 which I've had mapped to about 195 and mahoosive amounts of torque.
Previously when running the scoob over winter I would fit snow tyres as I live in the middle of nowhere on top of a hill so I thought I would get some snow tyres for the vectra.
As its only a vectra I got 2 sunny sn 3830 from mytyres.com they were only £56 each for 215/50/17 so thought why not.
Never again, on a dry they are average but a wet road they are dogger, the previous Avons used to grip ok and only a couple of times did they ever loose traction in 2nd gear, now with these if I plant it in 3rd on a wet road it just sits and spins, I've even crossed a pot hole in forth and the traction control light flickered.
Now as I said these are fitted to a ****ty vectra and they can't cope so unless your want to wheelspin everywhere and quite possible be off at the first wet corner keep these away from your scoob.
Cheap but not so cheerful.
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I'll ref' you to a thread here which I replied to.

Chinese tyres

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Old 04 November 2012, 03:17 PM
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I'm near Glasgow too and thinking the same. I have them for my Beemer as well as Subaru. It is starting to get cold, reckon they're going on this week.

As to the poster who has an issue, they aren't snow tyres they are winter tyres. They are designed for under 7 degrees. Cheap winters will be useless in the wet or dry, don't buy cheap tyres. It's a huge false economy and can be dangerous. You only have 4 points of contact with the road, madness to scrimp in that area...
Old 04 November 2012, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
They normally say if the temps are constantly below 11 deg C then it's time to fit winter tyres.
Must be winter tyres all year round then
Old 04 November 2012, 06:49 PM
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Any recomendations for winter tyres, can't choose between Conti/Dunlop/Goodyear/Michelin?
Thanks
Old 04 November 2012, 06:59 PM
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I fitted a set of Toyo Snowproxes last week, but my gearbox went on Monday so haven't tested them yet
Old 04 November 2012, 07:41 PM
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Anyone tried Coopers CS6 Zeons in the snow?
Old 04 November 2012, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by vance1
Any recomendations for winter tyres, can't choose between Conti/Dunlop/Goodyear/Michelin?
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Pirelli Sotto Zero get my vote but any decent winter tyre would be better than a summer tyre in the cold and wet.
Old 05 November 2012, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by vance1
Any recomendations for winter tyres, can't choose between Conti/Dunlop/Goodyear/Michelin?
Thanks
Definetly the Contis, although expensive. They came out top in the recent Auto Express winter tyre review.
Old 05 November 2012, 07:09 AM
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As above, fitted mine last year to my vrs. Very safe in the dry or wet at any temp!
Old 05 November 2012, 08:03 AM
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I keep a set of spare wheels with Bridgestone Blizzak LM25 tyres on. I'm not sure it's quite cold enough to need them here just yet, but they'll probably be going back on my P1 in a couple of weeks' time.

They did a great job last year, no nasty moments in the ice and snow.
Old 05 November 2012, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by vance1
Any recomendations for winter tyres, can't choose between Conti/Dunlop/Goodyear/Michelin?
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I've used Conti Wintercontacts and had 5 winters out of them. Now need replacing so looking at Conti's again ( TS830p) and also Nokian WR A3. The Nokians are quite abit cheaper than the Contis and come out well in tests.

Best get them soon as if we have much frost/snow prices are sure to rocket.
Old 05 November 2012, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by blackvenom
Fitted mine this week, But Its not as cold here. First time I drove with them for a while and got a 4 wheel slid when pulling out of a juction, they aren't as sticky as my yoko's

They won't be . Wait till temp drop down below zero then your yoko won't be as sticky as winter one

Have a safe winter
Old 05 November 2012, 06:27 PM
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Thanks for the advice, they arent half dear for a decent set! Quite keen on the Dunlops after doing some research on the internet and comparing prices.
Old 06 November 2012, 10:04 PM
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Nokians
Old 06 November 2012, 10:26 PM
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had mine pirelli soto zeroes on for a month now !!
Old 07 November 2012, 01:12 PM
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Put a set of Conti WinterContact 810 Sport on my 330R hatch last week. Initial impressions (after taking the almost bald P Zero Rosso's off) is that a huge amount of grip has returned
Old 07 November 2012, 01:41 PM
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MY Pirrelli Soto Zero II set from last but one Winter went on last weekend again. I must say when they were new they were very quiet but got noisier after a month. Wear was even and very light having run them for 3,000miles from November till April 2010 and the same this last Winter. They look like new and gave that quiet new feeling when they went back on. Helps to have a spare set of wheels.

I should get at least four years out of these. Driving like Miss Daisy when it's dry and a bit warmer helps!!

I do 5-6,000 a year so the RE070s should also last a good 4 years at this rate. 2016 will be an expensive year!

Mrs H's Grande Espace got hers from last Winter back on too. For such a tank, the South Korean Experia XGrips have lasted very well indeed. Should get at least 5 years from them and oodles of grip as well.

It's been 7-8' for weeks here on the Island.

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Old 07 November 2012, 05:36 PM
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I bought a set of Apollo Acelere for my Rover 25 and got to say i'm quite impressed with them, all round grip wet and dry is fantastic, temps out here in croatia can drop quite a bit over the winter months, especially at night and in the morning even though daytime temps where i am are still high, 15/18 at the min, it can be freezing down in the town i go to for shopping.

Anyhow so impressed was i that i did a bit of a search on them and discovered Apollo are an Indian company and they own Vredestein, so just a bit of a heads up for anyone considering them because at £200 for a set they are very good value, they also get good reviews.
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Originally Posted by CADpaul
I fitted a set of Toyo Snowproxes last week, but my gearbox went on Monday so haven't tested them yet
I have now fully tested the Toyo Snowproxes and in the snow and ice they are incredible compared to normal tyres, grip is outstanding, they give you more confidence (that doesn't mean you can be stupid) I haven't been stuck or lost traction (unless I wanted to)
I will be using winter tyres every winter from now on
At 130 quid a corner they aren't cheap, but they are worth every penny
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Originally Posted by CADpaul
I have now fully tested the Toyo Snowproxes and in the snow and ice they are incredible compared to normal tyres, grip is outstanding, they give you more confidence (that doesn't mean you can be stupid) I haven't been stuck or lost traction (unless I wanted to)
I will be using winter tyres every winter from now on
At 130 quid a corner they aren't cheap, but they are worth every penny
good man, another convert.
Honestly since leaving the UK and driving in winters over here, I dont know why more people in the UK dont use them or why insurance companies dont give a discount to winter tyre users, it must make financial sense to the insurers with lower risk.

Anybody thinking that they dont need winter tyres out on the ice and their 4x4 system will sort it out is kidding themselves n dont understand how a car works n should go back to driving school.

its not about the go in winter,
its about the stop!
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Originally Posted by _Viktor
good man, another convert.
Honestly since leaving the UK and driving in winters over here, I dont know why more people in the UK dont use them or why insurance companies dont give a discount to winter tyre users, it must make financial sense to the insurers with lower risk.

Anybody thinking that they dont need winter tyres out on the ice and their 4x4 system will sort it out is kidding themselves n dont understand how a car works n should go back to driving school.

its not about the go in winter,
its about the stop!
I fitted these CONTINENTAL WINTER CONTACT TS830P TYREs to a STI hatch and they are fantastic. Especially in snow but are good in bothe wet and dry providing the temperature is below 7 deg C.

However they can actually cause you to be hit up the back end if you are not carefull and aware of what others are doing around you. Your grip is so much better that you stop in plenty of time but the car behind you with not so much grip runs right in to the back of you.

Mal
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I've had Michelin pilot Aplins on my legacy and they have made so much difference - living in a rural area where the gritters don't reach they have been superb. Decided to leave the cs400 on the drive !!!
Old 27 January 2013, 08:33 PM
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Winter tyres are fantastic IMO, just not necessary for some of the driving Gods in the Winter Tyres thread in NSR though
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