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Old 28 October 2012, 05:52 PM
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what is it lately with people fitting mods without remapping and asking why it runs funny, does the search facility not work anymore or are people just stupid?

Old 28 October 2012, 05:59 PM
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I just turned my heating on, will I need a remap?
Old 28 October 2012, 05:59 PM
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But why won't it work properly....
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Originally Posted by KAS35RSTI
I just turned my heating on, will I need a remap?
i just changed the turbo,injectors,intercooler and exhaust then i drove the car and it blew up
Old 28 October 2012, 06:02 PM
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I just fitted a splitter, will the aerodynamics change the map?

Saying that we are all clueless sometimes, better to confirm. I always ask if I am in doubt, you just never know.....

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Old 28 October 2012, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
i just changed the turbo,injectors,intercooler and exhaust then i drove the car and it blew up
I have a hair dryer you can put in mate this will not need mapping
Old 28 October 2012, 06:03 PM
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Just had yours mapped havn't you Tubbs, Any graphs or what did it do?
Old 28 October 2012, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GAZ2293
Just had yours mapped havn't you Tubbs, Any graphs or what did it do?
nah didnt bother remapping it, i asked advice on here and everyone said it needed a remap so i ignored them and drove it anyway.


anyone know what the loud knocking noise in my engine bay is???
Old 28 October 2012, 06:05 PM
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I could understand a remap for big changes to the car, but surley small changes like a pipe or air filterthe standard ecu could cope.
Old 28 October 2012, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bikesforme
I could understand a remap for big changes to the car, but surley small changes like a pipe or air filterthe standard ecu could cope.
Yes the standard ECU will adjust itself to accommodate things to a degree, but its not ideal. Fully de-catting a car and changing the amount of air is being drawn in really need mapping in, if nothing else it gives you the piece of mind it's running sweet.
Also, why do we all mod our cars ? Because we want to get the most out of it, without mapping these mods in we will never get the best from them.
A slight change in fuel then yes the ecu will adjust slightly but anything more then get it done.

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Old 28 October 2012, 06:20 PM
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A remap it will be then.
Old 28 October 2012, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bikesforme
A remap it will be then.
Best £££ you'll spend on your car.
Old 28 October 2012, 06:26 PM
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they are everywhere lately

https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...misfiring.html
Old 28 October 2012, 07:08 PM
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One of my pet hates, thought of putting that as my signature before!
Old 28 October 2012, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Best £££ you'll spend on your car.
Agreed
Old 28 October 2012, 07:50 PM
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I think people are scared of the £1200 bill that they get quoted for a simtec with anti lag and lc. Especially as the value of the car is only in the eye of the beholder.

It's also possible that people want to do as much as possible to the car before shelling out all that money at once.

For example; if you're replacing the injectors and turbo at a 4 figure cost, you then need to add the new ecu on top and it has to be done at the same time

I know where some of the moans are coming from but there are some questions that tuners do disagree on, like cat replacement pipe. We know it'll be better with a remap but you'll still gain benefits without one.

p.s i know very little and i'm quoting what i've seen and read on here and from my own technician.
Old 28 October 2012, 08:19 PM
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Just slapped on some WRC stickers and a fake roof vent, will it need a remap?
Old 28 October 2012, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
Just slapped on some WRC stickers and a fake roof vent, will it need a remap?

No it needs setting on fire..
Old 28 October 2012, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
Assuming the guy has not given it the beans, changing to a FMIC will not make it misfire. Driven sensibly you could go for months before getting the map sorted, although weeks in my case, with absolutely no problems at all as in my reply in that thread.
If you experience misfire, surging, stalling etc there must be a reason beyond just a IC swap, assuming correct installation, no air leaks etc.

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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
Just slapped on some WRC stickers and a fake roof vent, will it need a remap?
a kick in the ***** will suffice.
Old 28 October 2012, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GAZ2293
Just had yours mapped havn't you Tubbs, Any graphs or what did it do?
Not a lot as he's still using standard turbo
Old 28 October 2012, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
Not a lot as he's still using standard turbo
Old 28 October 2012, 09:26 PM
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its not fc boys
Old 28 October 2012, 09:29 PM
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Yes, it was fully explained in FC.....
Old 28 October 2012, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Markfey
I think people are scared of the £1200 bill that they get quoted for a simtec with anti lag and lc. Especially as the value of the car is only in the eye of the beholder.
There are far cheaper ways to remap any subaru impreza than that though!!!
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What if you're stuck with a unmapable ecu and you need to replace. I know there are apexi ones but some versions are limited. I know it was a bit of an exaggeration though.
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy


what is it lately with people fitting mods without remapping and asking why it runs funny, does the search facility not work anymore or are people just stupid?


Yes, people are stupid. The modern day clientèle of Subaru owner is now lower than of previous years so you expect more questions about dump valves, stickers and the like of your above miniature rant
Old 28 October 2012, 10:30 PM
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just because people dont know a remap is needed doesnt mean they are stupid. Just tell them why , and be on your way.

Before i had a scoob , i had a 1.4 Focus which i fitted an induction kit to. Ran it for 2 years with not even a thought of a remap. Now , i had no reason to think i couldnt do the same with the scoob until i asked about which one was recommended for it and i was told it would need a remap. End of story.

Isnt that what forums are about ?
Old 28 October 2012, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Markfey
What if you're stuck with a unmapable ecu and you need to replace. I know there are apexi ones but some versions are limited. I know it was a bit of an exaggeration though.
No impreza ECU is un-mappable, despite what many people think/read.
Old 28 October 2012, 11:13 PM
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