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Old 11 July 2012, 07:30 PM
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Default Has anyone got a Cosworth?

Reviews are rather tepid...
Would like to hear from some one who actually has one?
If the 'Higgs boson' particle is the God particle,
Is the 'Cosworth' the God Subaru??
Old 11 July 2012, 07:58 PM
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Eh
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Got Cosworth head gaskets, does that count? lol
Old 11 July 2012, 09:54 PM
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Got cosworth air filter.Its the god of air filters!
Old 11 July 2012, 10:00 PM
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Nah mate stickers better.
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Originally Posted by chopperman
Got Cosworth head gaskets, does that count? lol
Likewise Confusing thread or what!
Old 12 July 2012, 01:05 AM
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Think he's referring to the CS400 nice cars and at £38k for a new one it is a good deal as opposed to the £50k price tag when they were first launched . I personally think the Spec c R205 is much better than the Cosworth imo hence me buying one instead of the Cosworth

Spec c R205









Old 12 July 2012, 01:37 AM
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There's only one cosworth and it ain't that Subaru piece of toss either!
Old 12 July 2012, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by frayz
There's only one cosworth and it ain't that Subaru piece of toss either!
Well said mate!!
Old 12 July 2012, 06:59 AM
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Escort frayz lol
Old 12 July 2012, 07:43 AM
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I came into this thread thinking of the Escort.
Old 12 July 2012, 08:21 AM
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£38 new is a good price for one of the last ones
There is a lovely silver one at Newcastle Subaru for £38 about a year old

Lovely interior
It was a sales disaster for Subaru
They really need to examine themselves at Subaru uk on what the customers actually want
My local dealer Stan Palmer had a fantastic plasma blue hatch in the showroom for a year at £34-5k the then reduced it to £27 k and it went within a few days

I hear there is talk of a new STi saloon at 30k fully loaded they need something like that to get the market moving for them again r even the Aussie orange edition at 30k

They are missing out so much on sales
They discontinued the excellent wrxd although my spec went up to £25500 after I bought it and they need a petrol wrx to retail at £20k as hatches are more acceptable no to the purists but the 34k does put people off

I guess Subaru are putting all their eggs in one basket with the BRZ
Old 12 July 2012, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by frayz
There's only one cosworth and it ain't that Subaru piece of toss either!
Anybody who rates either the Sierra Cosworth or Escort Cosworth as a better all round car than the Subaru hasn't driven all three. The Subaru wins hands down in terms of handling, performance, refinement and even looks. Those Fords look just so old fashioned 1980s.
Old 12 July 2012, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by paulbu
Anybody who rates either the Sierra Cosworth or Escort Cosworth as a better all round car than the Subaru hasn't driven all three. The Subaru wins hands down in terms of handling, performance, refinement and even looks. Those Fords look just so old fashioned 1980s.
Like f**k it does
Old 12 July 2012, 08:57 AM
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Yes was referring to cs400 - opinion seems to be that price That can pick up new one now is reasonable? - that's the divorce sorted then...
Juggers your R205 looks brilliant - great pictures.
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Originally Posted by paulbu
Anybody who rates either the Sierra Cosworth or Escort Cosworth as a better all round car than the Subaru hasn't driven all three. The Subaru wins hands down in terms of handling, performance, refinement and even looks. Those Fords look just so old fashioned 1980s.
Driven all three and owned both.

Where did I say I rated the car against on another?

All I said was, "there is only one cosworth!"

Think "500" and it's a 3 door sierra, not a matte black focus.
Think "200" and it's s group b rally car, not a drift box Nissan.
Think "Cosworth" and it will never be a crappy special edition Subaru.
Old 12 July 2012, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by frayz
All I said was, "there is only one cosworth!"

Think "500" and it's a 3 door sierra, not a matte black focus.
Think "200" and it's s group b rally car, not a drift box Nissan.
Think "Cosworth" and it will never be a crappy special edition Subaru.
And that's the thread ended right there!
Old 12 July 2012, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by lordharding
I hear there is talk of a new STi saloon at 30k fully loaded they need something like that to get the market moving for them again r even the Aussie orange edition at 30k

They are missing out so much on sales
They discontinued the excellent wrxd although my spec went up to £25500 after I bought it and they need a petrol wrx to retail at £20k as hatches are more acceptable no to the purists but the 34k does put people off
Was speaking to my local dealer the other day and he told me Subaru UK (IMI) were surprised at how badly dropping the WRX had affected sales ...not excrement Sherlock.

Like you say, what the need is the WRX and WRXd for £20-£25k that looks like the STi as per the US spec WRX rather than the non-flared arch UK spec one... not everyone wants the full blown STi but equally, you don't want your WRX to look like the run of the mill Impreza either.
Old 12 July 2012, 09:59 AM
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I've a CS400 - got it new at a good price and really enjoy driving it. Having that performance and handling plus a full 3 year warranty appealed - I dont have the inclination to do a build your own (or indeed the skills!!!), and because of the mileage I do a full warranty was important to me.

I think its a great car - I like the interior tweaks and it really does drive and perform like a dream. Not everones cup of tea I know, but it works for me....and I can get the dog in too!!
Old 12 July 2012, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Driven all three and owned both.

Where did I say I rated the car against on another?

All I said was, "there is only one cosworth!"

Think "500" and it's a 3 door sierra, not a matte black focus.
Think "200" and it's s group b rally car, not a drift box Nissan.
Think "Cosworth" and it will never be a crappy special edition Subaru.
Well said, owned both, and driven all 3. An old friend of mine had a 2.4 cossi lump built by Andy at Brooklyn ford about 15 years ago. the spec is huge, and well over 550 bhp - still going strong, never missed a beat, and never needed a rebuild etc. How many Subaru's can run that sort of power for that length of time without going pop? Only reason I sold my 3 door is because they are getting old now, and no garage ment it was exposed to the eliments, and of course tea leafs. Yes, a scoob will nail it on the handling side of things, but you cant knock those YB engines.
Old 12 July 2012, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Driven all three and owned both.

Where did I say I rated the car against on another?

All I said was, "there is only one cosworth!"

Think "500" and it's a 3 door sierra, not a matte black focus.
Think "200" and it's s group b rally car, not a drift box Nissan.
Think "Cosworth" and it will never be a crappy special edition Subaru.
Perfectly put!
Old 12 July 2012, 12:15 PM
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As above
Cars have gone the same as rally has ........
Fill in your own word lol
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Mikeyw - thanks for the reply re your car
Owned and loved a 330s - but cs400 really appeals
And ive got a dog too - good point!
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Originally Posted by Zaxay
If the 'Higgs boson' particle is the God particle,
Is the 'Cosworth' the God Subaru??
Far from it as I'm sure others have posted

TX.
Old 12 July 2012, 01:14 PM
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LOL, Subaru can drag that bodyshape through Ripspeed, or Demon Tweeks as many times as they want, it won't matter, it'll STILL be a Rover 25.
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Subaru's pricing issue is less to do with an inept marketing division, and more to do with the fact that their cars are manufactured in Japan, therefore having a JPY cost base - throwing their costs up 30% due to the hideously strong yen. What used to be a 25k car literally is a 33k car now - all due to the exchange rate. Its a tough time to be a Japanese manufacturer.

CS400 was not executed right, and should have had the fastest spooling turbo possible as opposed to a mid /high range usage spec - fine for enthusiasts but not for motoring jornos (the guys that make or break a car). Despite this, it is a hugely desirable point to point car, IMO.
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Originally Posted by mikeyw
I've a CS400 - got it new at a good price and really enjoy driving it. Having that performance and handling plus a full 3 year warranty appealed - I dont have the inclination to do a build your own (or indeed the skills!!!), and because of the mileage I do a full warranty was important to me.

I think its a great car - I like the interior tweaks and it really does drive and perform like a dream. Not everones cup of tea I know, but it works for me....and I can get the dog in too!!
Well said mate no doubt it is a very capable car and a lot of the negative comments are from people who have never owned or driven one.
Old 12 July 2012, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Zaxay
Mikeyw - thanks for the reply re your car
Owned and loved a 330s - but cs400 really appeals
And ive got a dog too - good point!
I agonised over what to buy for some considerable time - as Tony who is a Scoobynet regular on here will tell you. I really liked the saloon but it just was not a practical car. I looked at other marques too, but I love my Scoobys and buying an Audi was something I could not do! - and their dealership by us were less than useless. I wanted AWD, I wanted performance and I wanted some practicality, but I also wanted soemthing that I could turn up to a clients in and not be judged as being too flash...

My Scooby dealer on the other hand is brilliant - they went out of their way to try and help me find the right car, borrowing the Cosworth from the MD of Subaru UK to fit in with a test drive I needed.

The car has its faults, as do all cars. Doubtless there are aspects that could have had more work, but I guess the overall cost of development meant they had to draw the line somewhere.

It is faster than anything I have ever driven, handles like a dream, and I like the fact that it is a limited edition (i've number 75). I know others on here dont share my views that this is a great car, but I sure as heck love mine.

If you had a 330s then you have already lived with this kind of car, but this just takes the performance up a notch or 4 - plus with that bit of Cosworth magic. Like others on here I remember the Cosworths of the 80's and I love that I have a Subaru Cosworth now. Its not trying to be a ford from the 80's - it is what it is, and I dont get that Cosworth are anything less than happy with their end result, and neither am I.
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You are mad to put the dog in there - I hope you have a very good valeter and decent boot protection from Subaru thrown in..!
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Originally Posted by rexguy
You are mad to put the dog in there
Yes, what self respecting dog would want to be seen in a hatch


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