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Old 15 May 2012, 09:35 PM
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Default Help !! why did my scooby die on me today ?

Car is a 2002 bugeye wrx turbo, runs spot on all the time, except today.

Driving home from work today i approached a junction, dipped the clutch and the engine died. Wouldnt restart although tried to, spark was there but No fuel pump prime or buzz.
Pushed the car up on the kerb. Investigated and conclusion was no fuel pump working. fitted a walbro a week ago and guessed the walbro had failed. Got our lass to come and bring me my old OEM fuel pump, stripped it down, hooked up my old pump and guess what ? no fuel pump prime !!!
So went back to fuse box under dash and removed every fuse one by one, even though i knew fuse 14 was ok. My immobiliser keypad started flashing and stopped when i fitted the unit back in.
Heres the best bit ! Tried to start the car in desperation and guess what ?? she fired up first time !!! The car sounded great and now i had the engine light on with a code P1230 ( 230) fuel pump malfunction ( low voltage ).
What happened to my car ? and will it happen again ?
Old 15 May 2012, 09:42 PM
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Fuel pump disconnection is a common problem on the classics.
On the classics there is a black connecting block under the rear seat drivers side sometimes they melt with the heat generated.
My problem was the connecting block detaching itself.
I presume the bug uses the same system.
Very poor wiring from Subaru in my opinion...
Old 15 May 2012, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
Fuel pump disconnection is a common problem on the classics.
On the classics there is a black connecting block under the rear seat drivers side sometimes they melt with the heat generated.
My problem was the connecting block detaching itself.
I presume the bug uses the same system.
Very poor wiring from Subaru in my opinion...
That was the first thing i checked when i remove the rear seat cushion. I will seperate it tomorrow and spray it with wd40 although that wasnt my prob.
Old 15 May 2012, 09:58 PM
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Aaaargh, why would you spray WD40 into a connector? It's a pretty good insulator!

If you are worried about the connector, take it apart. check for corrosion and refit after tightening the connectors if necessary.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Aaaargh, why would you spray WD40 into a connector? It's a pretty good insulator!

If you are worried about the connector, take it apart. check for corrosion and refit after tightening the connectors if necessary.
Any ideas why my car died for an hour ?
Old 15 May 2012, 10:12 PM
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Hi, this happened to me earlier this year, read the following thread for some good advice and what I found out to be the problem.

https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...-car-died.html

Car still going with no hint of repeat problem.
Old 15 May 2012, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Finbin
Hi, this happened to me earlier this year, read the following thread for some good advice and what I found out to be the problem.

https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...-car-died.html

Car still going with no hint of repeat problem.
Thanks for that. Mine has a built in Thatcham. I know thatchams innterupt the fuel pump supply too. So that is a possible contender.
Old 15 May 2012, 10:45 PM
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done a little searching and found this,
The fuel relay is in the trunk, on the passenger side behind the carpet right above the wheel arch.
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Originally Posted by SLAB
done a little searching and found this,
The fuel relay is in the trunk, on the passenger side behind the carpet right above the wheel arch.
Is that for the bugeye ? There are other threads saying it is under the drivers dash above the pedals, maybe that is for classics. The car wasnt immobilised, or not fully as there was a spark, so a poor connection is what i am looking for. Have booked the morning off work tomorrow to try and sort it. Car is fine at the moment though.
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for bug m8 2002
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Originally Posted by SLAB
for bug m8 2002
Cheers. I will check the relay tomorrow and inspect the rear seat multiplug too.
Old 15 May 2012, 11:15 PM
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Fuel pump relays are cheap & can cause intermittent non start. I'd replace it & see how it goes.
Old 15 May 2012, 11:23 PM
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Do newage come with stupid sigma alarm that late uk classics come with? If so then the relay for the fuel pump breakdown over time. Do not confuse this with the main fuel pump relay. The sigma unit has its own relays, bypass the fuel one
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Originally Posted by Gambit
Do newage come with stupid sigma alarm that late uk classics come with? If so then the relay for the fuel pump breakdown over time. Do not confuse this with the main fuel pump relay. The sigma unit has its own relays, bypass the fuel one
How do you bypass and where is this on a classic ?

All the best,

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take the undertray of from below the steering column, and also the driverside kick panel. you'll see the alarm wiring, usually a complete mess, just look for the 2 skinny wires spliced into the thick gauge fuel pump wiring. these are the alarm wires, remove and bridge these. alarm wiring is a recipe for disaster!

alarms where all dealer fitted, and most are bodge jobs
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Originally Posted by Gambit
take the undertray of from below the steering column, and also the driverside kick panel. you'll see the alarm wiring, usually a complete mess, just look for the 2 skinny wires spliced into the thick gauge fuel pump wiring. these are the alarm wires, remove and bridge these. alarm wiring is a recipe for disaster!

alarms where all dealer fitted, and most are bodge jobs
Cheers

By bridge them do you mean remove them and just electric tape them together ?
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