Mot 2012 -> track only car
24 November 2011, 05:55 PM
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Mot 2012 -> track only car
With the upcoming 2012 mot changes, there's around 0% chance of my car passing the annual inspection, without serious rework for every MOT.
The main problem are the requirements to have an adjustable drivers seat (I've got fixed buckets), no changes to airbags (seats again) + steering wheel, no changes to seat belts (weld in cage which fouled standard seat belts so now I only have my fia approved harnesses) and unsafe wiring (well, mines exposed due to lack of interior.
With the above in mind, I've started thinking that keeping a modified Subaru (or any modified car) on the road is no longer viable. My car hardly ever sees the road anyway as it is, but driving to/from track days has been handy, plus it's given me the option of a quick shake down before track days.
I'm just about ready to admit defeat against "the system" and make the car track only. It's got the big advantage that I can then do what I please as long as it's not unsafe for track, I.e get rid of heavy driving lights and the like, fibre glass wins etc etc.
Is anyone else thinking similar thought, and if so, what are you planning on doing re insurance? My home insurance excludes theft of motor vehicles from outbuildings, and I obviously do not wan to pay full insurance on the scooby as I'll need my no claims for the tow car instead.*
It's either the above, or sell up and build/buy a west field or similar.
The main problem are the requirements to have an adjustable drivers seat (I've got fixed buckets), no changes to airbags (seats again) + steering wheel, no changes to seat belts (weld in cage which fouled standard seat belts so now I only have my fia approved harnesses) and unsafe wiring (well, mines exposed due to lack of interior.
With the above in mind, I've started thinking that keeping a modified Subaru (or any modified car) on the road is no longer viable. My car hardly ever sees the road anyway as it is, but driving to/from track days has been handy, plus it's given me the option of a quick shake down before track days.
I'm just about ready to admit defeat against "the system" and make the car track only. It's got the big advantage that I can then do what I please as long as it's not unsafe for track, I.e get rid of heavy driving lights and the like, fibre glass wins etc etc.
Is anyone else thinking similar thought, and if so, what are you planning on doing re insurance? My home insurance excludes theft of motor vehicles from outbuildings, and I obviously do not wan to pay full insurance on the scooby as I'll need my no claims for the tow car instead.*
It's either the above, or sell up and build/buy a west field or similar.
24 November 2011, 06:11 PM
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Providing you have access to a trailer, I'd go with taking the car off the road completely and keep it just for track use. It's definitely worth checking with the DVLA as the rules around this have changed but as far as I'm aware if you'r car is declared SORN you don't need to insure it.
24 November 2011, 06:26 PM
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all those points really mot fails?
a lots chnaged since my days
if its that heavily modified can you not get it inspected seperatly, like kit cars ect?
exposed wiring was never in the mot book when i was there, as lng as seatbelt mounts were secure was ok, no corrosion within 30cm of brakes, seatbelt or suspensio mounts - tht all gone has it?
a lots chnaged since my days
if its that heavily modified can you not get it inspected seperatly, like kit cars ect?
exposed wiring was never in the mot book when i was there, as lng as seatbelt mounts were secure was ok, no corrosion within 30cm of brakes, seatbelt or suspensio mounts - tht all gone has it?
24 November 2011, 07:45 PM
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I'm not sure about all the changes but according to the AA: "Visible wiring that is insecure, inadequately supported or likely to cause a short will also result in a failure as will wires bared by damaged insulation"
Exposed wiring isn't a fail in itself.
Perhaps you need to find a "friendly" tester.
Exposed wiring isn't a fail in itself.
Perhaps you need to find a "friendly" tester.
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24 November 2011, 10:06 PM
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1st Jan 2012. Vosa testing manual here: http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repositor...n%20Manual.pdf
Section 5.4:
* (paraphrased) airbag light on - fail. Not a big problem to fix with resistors, however the rest is:
Method of inspection:
"As far as practicable, check that all airbags fitted as original equipment are present and not obviously defective."
"Check the presence and condition of any seat belt load limiters and/or pretensioners fitted as original equipment."
Reason for rejection:
1. An airbag obviously missing or defective.
Note: A passenger airbag that has been switched off is not a Reason for Rejection.
2. A Supplementary Restraint System (SRS) malfunction indicator lamp:
* inoperative
* indicating a system malfunction.
3. A seat belt load limiter or pretensioner obviously missing where fitted as original equipment
Section 5.1:
Check that each seat that requires a seat belt is fitted with one of the appropriate type.
reason for rejection:
missing or of the wrong type
There may be a loop hole here, section 5.1.9 states that "An adult harness belt comprising a lap belt and shoulder straps bearing a British Standard or European approval marking (an upper case ’E’ or lower case ‘e’ and a number) is an acceptable alternative to any of the seat belt types listed."
However, that still leaves the pretensioners etc, and obviously any FIA spec belts are out, as they are not e-marked.
Section 6.2:
"Check that the driver’s seat position can be adjusted forwards and backwards and secured in the selected positions. "
Section 5.4:
* (paraphrased) airbag light on - fail. Not a big problem to fix with resistors, however the rest is:
Method of inspection:
"As far as practicable, check that all airbags fitted as original equipment are present and not obviously defective."
"Check the presence and condition of any seat belt load limiters and/or pretensioners fitted as original equipment."
Reason for rejection:
1. An airbag obviously missing or defective.
Note: A passenger airbag that has been switched off is not a Reason for Rejection.
2. A Supplementary Restraint System (SRS) malfunction indicator lamp:
* inoperative
* indicating a system malfunction.
3. A seat belt load limiter or pretensioner obviously missing where fitted as original equipment
Section 5.1:
Check that each seat that requires a seat belt is fitted with one of the appropriate type.
reason for rejection:
missing or of the wrong type
There may be a loop hole here, section 5.1.9 states that "An adult harness belt comprising a lap belt and shoulder straps bearing a British Standard or European approval marking (an upper case ’E’ or lower case ‘e’ and a number) is an acceptable alternative to any of the seat belt types listed."
However, that still leaves the pretensioners etc, and obviously any FIA spec belts are out, as they are not e-marked.
Section 6.2:
"Check that the driver’s seat position can be adjusted forwards and backwards and secured in the selected positions. "
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