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Old 15 November 2011, 04:16 PM
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Question HID kits

Hi folks

I was looking at hid kits for my classic wagon. I have black crystal lights on it and was wondering whether to just buy new bulbs or spend extra and but a kit.
Would it be worth it?
Would I actually see a big improvment over brighter H4 bulbs?
And are they legal for the older cars that don't come with them as standard? (I had heard somewhere that they were an mot failure)

Here's a link to an Ebay item I have seen:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XENON-HID-...52549284016811

Any info would be greatly appreciated
Old 15 November 2011, 04:44 PM
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HID are definately brighter than normal H4 bulbs, go for the proper complete kit with the ballasts. Ref legality as long as you have the projector lenses you will be fine, I have them fitted to mine and it sailed through the MOT.
Old 15 November 2011, 05:04 PM
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I was after some help last week mate,Click on this link.


https://www.scoobynet.com/lighting-a...ssic-hids.html
Old 15 November 2011, 05:29 PM
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I believe hid kits are becoming testable items next year, probley worth checking with vosa before spending out! Probley have to have bs standard or eu marks visible to pass. Something I'm going to look into as classic headlamps are pants!

Im sure I read on my mot comp at work about hid kits, I'll have a check tomorrow failing that I have an mot seminar coming up might be worth a question!!
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I was going to go down the HID route but decided to try up rating my bulbs first.
Got some ice white 100W ones in now and are FAR FAR brighter than original.
Good enough for me and a much cheaper option.
Old 15 November 2011, 05:33 PM
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Also,
I very much doubt the kit in the link would be much cop. You get what you pay for remember and 25 sheets won't get you much.
Old 15 November 2011, 05:46 PM
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I got a kit from revolution recently, £70 has worked well so far
Old 15 November 2011, 06:06 PM
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The only thing to bear in mind when thinking of HID is that you cannot polish a turd.

Scoob classic lights are pants, and putting in uprtaed, higher wattage, or HIDs will result in more light on the road, but morem scatter too, which could cause dazzle.

Plus, the main beam from HIDs is usually WORSE than the halogen, since it lacks focus
Old 15 November 2011, 06:40 PM
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ive got a similar kit to the ones in the link above (on a newage) and they have worked without any problems for over a year. they are a lot better than the original lights. i went for the 4300k ones as i wanted the better visibility rather than getting them for the "blue" look.

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The relevant words on your post are "on a newage".

HID kits are a good upgrade if you have TWO bulbs, not one twin-filament job.

It's the H4 bulb that is the problem: no-one has yet come up with a method of placing two arcs EXACTLY where they are needed.
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Also,
I very much doubt the kit in the link would be much cop. You get what you pay for remember and 25 sheets won't get you much.
But you know me Matt and my background as it is atm

What bulbs did you buy Matt? I bought some and they are ok on low beam but absoloutly crap on high beam

So sounds a bit like I will have to just live with it then
Old 15 November 2011, 11:50 PM
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Also worth bearing in mind that the new 2012 VOSA testing guidelines for MOTs specifically say retro-fit HIDs should be failed, unless the car they're fitted to has automatic self-leveling headlamps or suspension, all because of the new EU regs. Tricky one to get around, sadly.
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