Rob Day

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I have been considering for a while now that it just no longer viable for me to run a Subaru especially when I only get 20 mpg on a good day .

So my plan is to search for a good old oil burner that will deliver a reasonable mpg whilst being relatively maintenance free. I already have another family vehilce, but as we need two daily commuters I need another car, hence Im open to suggestions. Its needs to be relatively cheap, and idealy with four doors.

So what Oil burner? (VW Golf maybe?)
Turn my Scoob into a stripped out track car
Car Transporter for Scooby
My Renault Grand Scenic will pull the Scoob for fun

Help please
Rob

jaygsi

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Get a clio dci 60-70 mpg £20-£30 tax for year, only problem is its french.

stevebt

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I thought you were planning on competing in some events in your car??

Rob Day

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Just looked at these, they seem quite alright for the money, will look further into it

I certainly am going to be doing Steve I just think the amount of cash im spending on fuel considering the miles I do is crazy. the trouble is I live out in the sticks, and my kids school is around 5 miles away, but its all back roads up and down various hills http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...-8&sa=N&tab=wl Its not just that, its the rest of the issue you need to factor in, like im on coilovers and it just so bloody rough on those roads

Anyway this year isnt looking likely to change to much with the car, but come Winter its operatons strip down, with the meantime used to source a good Oil burner and transporter.....

Dont worry Steve i'll be with you this year with my Meth mix , oh and some better handling mods, and some better racing lines

Rob

my06 ppp silver

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if it is literally what you say and just a runaround rob, my mate swears by his little 4 dr yaris. they are small mind, but very cheap to run otr

jameswrx

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I always wonder how much people actually save when they do this sort of thing. I know someone who paid out £7k for a diesel Clio for 'cheap' motoring. Has the £5000 in depriciation over the years made up for the fuel economy difference? I doubt it. It's fair enough if you do starship mileage I guess but he's certainly not.

sovietspybob

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I've always thought this, plus you've still got the extra expenses of MOT, Tax, Insurance, Tyres etc etc

Me and the missus are currently thinking about it though, she sells her current car. A mazda MX5 for 8-9k and we each get a cheap car for 4k each and keep the scooby for the weekends. Atleast that way we're not actually paying money to save money.

But for the OP aslong as he's done the maths it should be fine just don't go and buy a brand new/nearly new eco box on finance and expect to be suddenly minted!

Rob Day

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Im thinking more along the lines of £1500 car that would be about a third to insure over my Scoob, so thats £600 per annum saved.

Then the £1.40 per litre (£6.50 per Gallon) isnt going to get any less, so my current 20 mpg could be 60 mpg in an Oil burner, and I recon I only do around 5'000 miles per annum which is around £1600 in juice, whereas @ 60mpg it would be £550. Ok its not a huge saving, but when you add everything else up such as tyres, oil, service blah it does work out to be around £2'000 - £3'000 per year saved, plus when you pushing somewhere near 450bhp on standard internals the engine in the Scoob is likely to last a bit longer

So the saving of at least £2'000+ in the first year minus the cost of the other car, and the cost of the transporter probably equals itself out, but going forward at least I will have the ability to strip my car down for proper track use, where as long as im doing some school and work runs with colleague in the car, Im always going to have a full fat car.

Rob

pslewis

Forget French junk ... they really are utter sh1te, they fall apart when you look at them!!

Stay Japanese, you are used to cars which do what they say on the tin (Subaru's).

Buy a Honda Civic Diesel and live a little .... beware though, the Torque and turbo urge will re-arrange your stomach contents!! It will deliver 55 mpg and deliver reliable peerless motoring.

AVOID FRENCH TAT!!!

Budgie

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wow, Pete talks sense
about the french crap

nick172sport

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if youve bothered to look in the other marquies section theres a honda like yours fooked lol i love french cars better than any subaru ive owned or honda ****e and mine dosnt fall to bits ****

rossyboy

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and it wears the clutch out in much less than 50k miles in most cases. Any clutch slip yet Pete

I will admit though that I'm 2 months and 2k miles into my Civic diesel ownership now and TBH I dont miss my Blobeye wagon much.

Still have the classic for fun though

nick172sport

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have you driven a 197 dont comment then till you have

jura11

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Agreed,have before Saxo VTS and in 50k this car has been just nightmare,now have like second car Fiat(Fix It Again Tomorrow) Punto GT which seems is like French..



Jura

pslewis

I am an old fella .... and have seen many cars and owned many cars .... without exception, French cars have been utter, utter, utter crap.

Look at any survey, they come bottom with the old Rovers, TVR's and Wartburgs

my06 ppp silver

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always have loved the v6 clio and have you seen the way they hold there money!

jura11

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Warburg this car has been my first car(second has been Trabant),proper 2 stroke engine,not the best...but repairable for very low money.


Jura

pslewis

If you really want a bargain, cheap to run, french car ... here you go ... dip yer bread!!

http://www.carfile.net/vehicle.php?vehid=42599&type=b

stevebt

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A friend has a 182 and I think its faster than a standard impreza.

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182 will **** on a standard impreza french are alwys quite quick to b fair tho and as for a diesel a cheap one pug 306 hdi or dturbo brilliant on fuel and run foreva

Ste RB5138

I agree, they are great on fuel, if you get one registered after March 2001 they only £125 a year to tax instead of £215.
Something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2001-PEUGEOT-3...item4aab8bccf1

Herbie.

Audi A3 1.9 TDI are good oil burners. I had one, great to drive, 50 mpg and reliable

Rob Day

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Morning all, quite a bit of interesting reading going on here .

Ok so just to put some things in perspective, by doing what I mention in Post 1, this is to ultimatly save money long term on my daily commute, and enable me to convert my Subaru in to a more stripped out track car. So the budget for the "Oil Burner" (Gas in an option an course) is only around £1500 max for me to be able to do this realistically, but I really would need to see a good return on MPG and hopefully almost maintenance free bar the obvious. With regards to the above, I have once owned a 306 TDI and what a great little car that was, unfortunatly I killed it with house renovation work, and it never returned over 45 MPG, but it was old and abused .

As said, I already have one of these for long trips, majority of school runs, and lastly with a tow bar equipped for towing the Scoob. However the mrs needs this as she makes most of the school runs, and she needs it for work commitments, but come the weekend it mine Hence the need to a small four door oil burner when I have left the mrs at home with the kds

With respect to it being French, I choose this car with the mrs after test driving a VW Touran, Nissan Qashqai, Ford Galaxy, Citreon Picasso, and a Mitsi (cant recall the name), an for value for money thats why we ended up with what we have, it returns great MPG, and has all the gadgits along with the required boot space.


Anyway Back on Topic, what about a 307 HDI ? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2002-Peugeot-3...item2a10bc8182

Rob