Thanks For The Offer, Subaru UK .... but
23 April 2011, 04:58 PM
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Thanks For The Offer, Subaru UK .... but
I think I'll give it a miss - eh?
If I buy a STi I will now get 20BHP more and a Sat.Nav. ...... and that makes the RRP of £33,000 OK then, does it?
I THINK NOT!!
It's still bestowed with Amstrad quality ***** and switches, it still has the garden centre plantpot plastics on the underside, it still costs an arm and a leg to run ........ and, to top it all off, it's not even up there with the other boyz in town!
No, Subaru UK - stop tinkering at the edges and give us quality, power and reliability at £21,000 - forget the pathetic attempts to sell a product no-one wants anymore ... you are beginning to sound like DFS and DREAMS in your desperate attempts to justify a ridiculously high price for what is, at the end of the day, a low rent hatchback.
It pains me to see a good Marque going bad, really it does ... but it is in your hands - and your hands alone - give us what we want to buy ....... it's a new world now, the trottiing out of the same one trick pony doesn't cut it anymore
If I buy a STi I will now get 20BHP more and a Sat.Nav. ...... and that makes the RRP of £33,000 OK then, does it?
I THINK NOT!!
It's still bestowed with Amstrad quality ***** and switches, it still has the garden centre plantpot plastics on the underside, it still costs an arm and a leg to run ........ and, to top it all off, it's not even up there with the other boyz in town!
No, Subaru UK - stop tinkering at the edges and give us quality, power and reliability at £21,000 - forget the pathetic attempts to sell a product no-one wants anymore ... you are beginning to sound like DFS and DREAMS in your desperate attempts to justify a ridiculously high price for what is, at the end of the day, a low rent hatchback.
It pains me to see a good Marque going bad, really it does ... but it is in your hands - and your hands alone - give us what we want to buy ....... it's a new world now, the trottiing out of the same one trick pony doesn't cut it anymore
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And by doing that then the car will not be so powerfull,
Obviously the starter of this thread just like's to wind people up, But what winds me up are people moaning about running cost's its an Impreza you must have realized when buying it it wouldn't be cheap to run etc etc
Obviously the starter of this thread just like's to wind people up, But what winds me up are people moaning about running cost's its an Impreza you must have realized when buying it it wouldn't be cheap to run etc etc
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I think I'll give it a miss - eh?
If I buy a STi I will now get 20BHP more and a Sat.Nav. ...... and that makes the RRP of £33,000 OK then, does it?
I THINK NOT!!
It's still bestowed with Amstrad quality ***** and switches, it still has the garden centre plantpot plastics on the underside, it still costs an arm and a leg to run ........ and, to top it all off, it's not even up there with the other boyz in town!
No, Subaru UK - stop tinkering at the edges and give us quality, power and reliability at £21,000 - forget the pathetic attempts to sell a product no-one wants anymore ... you are beginning to sound like DFS and DREAMS in your desperate attempts to justify a ridiculously high price for what is, at the end of the day, a low rent hatchback.
It pains me to see a good Marque going bad, really it does ... but it is in your hands - and your hands alone - give us what we want to buy ....... it's a new world now, the trottiing out of the same one trick pony doesn't cut it anymore
If I buy a STi I will now get 20BHP more and a Sat.Nav. ...... and that makes the RRP of £33,000 OK then, does it?
I THINK NOT!!
It's still bestowed with Amstrad quality ***** and switches, it still has the garden centre plantpot plastics on the underside, it still costs an arm and a leg to run ........ and, to top it all off, it's not even up there with the other boyz in town!
No, Subaru UK - stop tinkering at the edges and give us quality, power and reliability at £21,000 - forget the pathetic attempts to sell a product no-one wants anymore ... you are beginning to sound like DFS and DREAMS in your desperate attempts to justify a ridiculously high price for what is, at the end of the day, a low rent hatchback.
It pains me to see a good Marque going bad, really it does ... but it is in your hands - and your hands alone - give us what we want to buy ....... it's a new world now, the trottiing out of the same one trick pony doesn't cut it anymore
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23 April 2011, 05:59 PM
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Sorry, for the STI you're right I was thinking of the WRX. This is more than possible.
Well not really. When I bought mine petrol was 90p/litre and insurance was half what it is now, so yes it was fairly cheap to run. What people moan about is the disproportionate rise in ownership costs compared to inflation.
Well not really. When I bought mine petrol was 90p/litre and insurance was half what it is now, so yes it was fairly cheap to run. What people moan about is the disproportionate rise in ownership costs compared to inflation.
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And by doing that then the car will not be so powerfull,
Obviously the starter of this thread just like's to wind people up, But what winds me up are people moaning about running cost's its an Impreza you must have realized when buying it it wouldn't be cheap to run etc etc
Obviously the starter of this thread just like's to wind people up, But what winds me up are people moaning about running cost's its an Impreza you must have realized when buying it it wouldn't be cheap to run etc etc
23 April 2011, 06:35 PM
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It's just a real travesty that Subaru keep on coming up with the same old thing ... it sold in bucketloads in 1998 - 2000.
Then Subaru's first slip up ... the Bug Eye arrived - the ugliest car to ever grace tarmac and no mistake!!
From then they never quite recovered their winning ways ... the Classic was the supercar that everyone could own - yes, it was expensive to run (but not as stupid as it is today!) ..... events have overtaken it. Time hasn't stood still - the Subaru Impreza has, it is still looking for buyers which were there in their 1,000's back in the year 2000.
They have gone, they will never return, they have moved on - it's time Subaru did.
Just my opinion and my desperate hope that this will make a difference somehow, somewhere, before Subaru is gone as a UK Marque - it cannot be long now
Then Subaru's first slip up ... the Bug Eye arrived - the ugliest car to ever grace tarmac and no mistake!!
From then they never quite recovered their winning ways ... the Classic was the supercar that everyone could own - yes, it was expensive to run (but not as stupid as it is today!) ..... events have overtaken it. Time hasn't stood still - the Subaru Impreza has, it is still looking for buyers which were there in their 1,000's back in the year 2000.
They have gone, they will never return, they have moved on - it's time Subaru did.
Just my opinion and my desperate hope that this will make a difference somehow, somewhere, before Subaru is gone as a UK Marque - it cannot be long now
23 April 2011, 07:17 PM
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PS Lewis, you aint interested in a scoob, you slag them off all day long with your 200+lb per ft smokey diesel, you're just trying to wind up scoob drivers.
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23 April 2011, 08:25 PM
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The point of this post is, far from being a wind up!! is that Subaru have got it all wrong ... they said that the point of the new hatchback was to attract the buyers who wouldn't normally buy a Subaru Impreza ...... they still don't!!!
Worse still .... the Impreza buyers of old were alienated .... now, they don't have any new buyers - or any old buyers who (like me) love Subaru's!!
How could they get it so, so, so, so wrong is my question? And, why do they think 20 BHP and a Sat. Nav. (which, let's be fair, every car at £33,000+ has anyway!!!!!) will change things?
Madness, complete madness ....................
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I - desperately - wanted to buy another new one ..... the story of why I didn't is told again and again all over the land.
The point of this post is, far from being a wind up!! is that Subaru have got it all wrong ... they said that the point of the new hatchback was to attract the buyers who wouldn't normally buy a Subaru Impreza ...... they still don't!!!
Worse still .... the Impreza buyers of old were alienated .... now, they don't have any new buyers - or any old buyers who (like me) love Subaru's!!
How could they get it so, so, so, so wrong is my question? And, why do they think 20 BHP and a Sat. Nav. (which, let's be fair, every car at £33,000+ has anyway!!!!!) will change things?
Madness, complete madness ....................
The point of this post is, far from being a wind up!! is that Subaru have got it all wrong ... they said that the point of the new hatchback was to attract the buyers who wouldn't normally buy a Subaru Impreza ...... they still don't!!!
Worse still .... the Impreza buyers of old were alienated .... now, they don't have any new buyers - or any old buyers who (like me) love Subaru's!!
How could they get it so, so, so, so wrong is my question? And, why do they think 20 BHP and a Sat. Nav. (which, let's be fair, every car at £33,000+ has anyway!!!!!) will change things?
Madness, complete madness ....................
Note you never replied when I asked why your Honda's tax was much higher, while the economy and performance poorer than my Mrs' 1 series? Perhaps its because its crap?
On a side note, my father was looking at changing his car last week. He looked at the Civic. Very claustrophobic in the back isn't it? And the 'hidden' rear door handles really had me fooled into thinking it was a coupe
(he didn't buy one )
23 April 2011, 09:00 PM
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2. I have a genuine 3 door - no hidden door handles for me.
3. I wouldn't buy one now, you can only get the 1.4 and 1.8 petrol ..... the fire breathing diesel is not available - they couldn't keep up with demand for that engine.
4. I did answer your crappy BMW Series 1 question ... it is such a poor car it's not in the same league as a Diesel Honda 2.2.
5. We are not here to talk Honda Civic's - however much you may like to ...... let's talk about why they cannot sell Impreza STi's.
23 April 2011, 09:33 PM
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Dont really care what car PSLewis drives,this car is a joke,and i agree with him about the point that Subaru has gone downhill rapid since the classic,i,ve had scoobys for ten years now,and i must admit there are a few others i like(bugeye sti),(hawkeye spec-c),but realistically the new cars aint selling and its just a matter of time before subaru is no longer a uk car,and looking at whats in Autocar this week,the sooner they go the better,its getting embarassing for them
23 April 2011, 10:54 PM
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1. I drive from the front seat - not sure why your daddy wants to drive from the rear?
2. I have a genuine 3 door - no hidden door handles for me.
3. I wouldn't buy one now, you can only get the 1.4 and 1.8 petrol ..... the fire breathing diesel is not available - they couldn't keep up with demand for that engine.
4. I did answer your crappy BMW Series 1 question ... it is such a poor car it's not in the same league as a Diesel Honda 2.2.
5. We are not here to talk Honda Civic's - however much you may like to ...... let's talk about why they cannot sell Impreza STi's.
2. I have a genuine 3 door - no hidden door handles for me.
3. I wouldn't buy one now, you can only get the 1.4 and 1.8 petrol ..... the fire breathing diesel is not available - they couldn't keep up with demand for that engine.
4. I did answer your crappy BMW Series 1 question ... it is such a poor car it's not in the same league as a Diesel Honda 2.2.
5. We are not here to talk Honda Civic's - however much you may like to ...... let's talk about why they cannot sell Impreza STi's.
1. My dad has enough friends that the rear seats need to be used.
2. Genuine 3 door?, wow.
3. You wouldn't buy one now? They couldn't keep up with demand?
It was pulled because it couldn't meet emission regs4. Your correct the 1 series isn't in the same league. Its in a much higher one. The civic handles and understeers like a boat. The 1 series is a brilliant drive. And £30 tax, and 5yrs servicing for £250
5. Thought you liked talking about civics? You come on here preaching about it enough. Or maybe, just maybe, you really are determined to convince yourself that a civic isn't an old mans car?, and secretly you wished you'd bought a Subaru. Or have they banned you again from the civic forums?
23 April 2011, 11:07 PM
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The only BMW 1 Series to compete with the Honda would be £10,000 MORE for LESS!! 
Pathetic.
What Car says:- "High pricetag for little equipment on the entry-level models. Rear space is tight and the ride is firm"
And of the Honda it says:- "The Civic is a great looking small family car. It’s also blessed with superb build quality and agile handling, while the boot is one of the largest in its class"
Anyway, your Daddies friends not being able to fit the back of a Civic and your wifes crappy, overpriced, BMW 'poormans' Series is off topic and extremely boring.
Back on topic ... are Subaru UK in big trouble? Will Subaru still be a player in the UK market in 2 years time? Is it just too painful to see a £33,000 STi drop in value to £20,000 after 6 months?
Pathetic.What Car says:- "High pricetag for little equipment on the entry-level models. Rear space is tight and the ride is firm"
And of the Honda it says:- "The Civic is a great looking small family car. It’s also blessed with superb build quality and agile handling, while the boot is one of the largest in its class"
Anyway, your Daddies friends not being able to fit the back of a Civic and your wifes crappy, overpriced, BMW 'poormans' Series is off topic and extremely boring.
Back on topic ... are Subaru UK in big trouble? Will Subaru still be a player in the UK market in 2 years time? Is it just too painful to see a £33,000 STi drop in value to £20,000 after 6 months?
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Go do your homework.
I didn't pay £10k more for the BMW. A poor mans BMW?, maybe, but its a second car. Not a bad run around.
6 month old STis are now £30k, not £20k as you say. Your just the £10k out then.
As for Subaru being here in 2 years?, why not go away and come back in 2013 and we'll see if your right?
I didn't pay £10k more for the BMW. A poor mans BMW?, maybe, but its a second car. Not a bad run around.
6 month old STis are now £30k, not £20k as you say. Your just the £10k out then.
As for Subaru being here in 2 years?, why not go away and come back in 2013 and we'll see if your right?
24 April 2011, 09:56 AM
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To me this is simple, if you dont like Subaru's get off the subaru forum, if you like civics go to the civic forums. 
For a newie like me it is really dissapointing to hear arguments about other marques on this forum! It reminds me of when i used to have the Jag, and ws on the jag forum, and everyone would compare it against other makes and models, it got boring!
For a newie like me it is really dissapointing to hear arguments about other marques on this forum! It reminds me of when i used to have the Jag, and ws on the jag forum, and everyone would compare it against other makes and models, it got boring!
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TBF Mr Lewis is one of the older members here on SN.
Pete, I certainly hope Subaru pull their finger out, in the mean time i think you should test drive the Impreza diesel
p.s can a k*cklink be fitted to a diesel
Pete, I certainly hope Subaru pull their finger out, in the mean time i think you should test drive the Impreza diesel
p.s can a k*cklink be fitted to a diesel
24 April 2011, 02:40 PM
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. It will only stop when people resist the urge to actually post anything, and the threads just drift slowly down. This will of course never happen, everyone wants to give the last response while, Mr Lewis sits in his armchair doing this to all the suckers he reals in.In fairness this started out to be a fairly valid thread but has gone down hill...again.
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To me this is simple, if you dont like Subaru's get off the subaru forum, if you like civics go to the civic forums.
For a newie like me it is really dissapointing to hear arguments about other marques on this forum! It reminds me of when i used to have the Jag, and ws on the jag forum, and everyone would compare it against other makes and models, it got boring!
For a newie like me it is really dissapointing to hear arguments about other marques on this forum! It reminds me of when i used to have the Jag, and ws on the jag forum, and everyone would compare it against other makes and models, it got boring!
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