kaa273

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When being remapped and your engine lets go. What happens, is it the vehicle owners responsibility to get it sorted or is there insurance (mappers side) that covers it?

Wanting to get the impreza done, just worried about if it all goes wrong

-shane-

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I would be guessing its your responsibility

TonyBurns

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It's down to the owner, you should ensure your car is in a fit condition to start with.

Tony

99greenwagon

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so what if it is fit to start with and then it happens?,because owner could blame mapper and say" you must have altered something wrong and your work is the cause of the engine going pop?

my94wrx

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as above its down to the owner, i don't think you will find any mapper offering a guarantee it wont go bang and if it does they'll fix it.

happydude303

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i think you should just use a very respected mapper there are a few on here and have peice of mind dude.. im looking forward to ducan remapping mine

99greenwagon

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it is at owners risk but if you took your car to an incompetant mapper and you were convinced he fooked the engine that that would be very ennoying as he is covered for his bodgey work,and now you have a 2k rebuild bill to find.
risky business!

99greenwagon

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ive pmd a few mappers on here and none of them seem to reply.

Tidgy

its your risk. most reputable companies will stand up to sorting things if they go wrong and they feel they are in some way to blame. bad companies tend not too

donny andi

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Having them mapped is on your own head......just like a rr day
Only use someone who is recommended and they have good results

kaa273

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thats what I thought but wanted to check

kaa273

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someone I work with is taking his Escort Cos. to area 52 for a rolling road day, are they any good

jura11

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If its your engine all ready fooked and you want remap,is your responsibility...
Due this i would recommend if you not sure,just get car full health check for sure,your car will take this.


Jura

stuart69

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What did your pm say:

Hi can you map my car please,but if it blows up after you have mapped it,iam going to hold you responsable


If it did,no wonder you havnt had a reply

kaa273

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I have to say it doesnt put me off, if I had to pay to fix it. I just wanted to know where I stood

Will definately get checked 1st, just need someone to do that

any suggestions who? (sorry new to the engine upgrading part)

StuS

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I've had to sign a form before, saying that it's my responsibility if it goes bang. Makes sense really.

ScoobyClinic is within reach of you, JGM and many others will travel to you. Have a search on the forum - there's plenty of info about mappers.

jura11

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How to say,if you are get car mapped someone from Gumtree,eBay etc you will ended in tears and big figure £££ on the end.
If you are get car mapped here professional mapper which mapping is life and business,you will have just smile per mile...

If you are not sure,just get car health check at first in Subaru Specialist and after visit here or call/pm reputable mapper and ask him what you want..


Jura

donny andi

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Few of the evo lads go there

Try matt at trl at Halifax....local'ish
There's also a place at Leeds....rs tuning I think

99greenwagon

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no,i was clearly weighing up the situation the op is in,my pm were general enquiries to having my car mapped.i am 100% aware that it would be my responsibilty.

kaa273

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got some ringing round to do

Thanks guys

99greenwagon

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it was quite obvious that i was stating if your car is 100% and you take it to a mapper who may not be reputable,the risk could be high and that if something went wrong,then some people may blame the mapper!

DamienP1

this is a funny question in tuning........a lot of mappers will make you sign paper before hand saying its ok to do it and it will have the outcomes written on there..........at the end of the day your pushing the cars limits away from standard form and you want it so why should a mapper pay 2k+ if the engine goes even if it was designed to run more its going above standard power levels...........you can blame a mapper that hasn't the best name in tuning but then we will ask when winged about on here why did you go there????

If you have modified the engine at all and none of the parts have come from the garage/mapper etc etc then good luck trying to blame them as those parts will get the blame which they did not source so blame will stay with you........same if your engine looks battered.......some mappers will turn the car away if it looks to bad

99greenwagon

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i agree,i would never even consider blaming any mapper for fooking an engine as its totally your desicion as to wether you want to push the car.just stating different scenarios to the op.

dunx

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Simon was in Sheffield a couple of weeks ago, he had another mess with mine... to set up a running in map.

More laughs and head scratching, followed by the realisation that mine is coping with 2 bar of boost and not exploding.

Somehow

dunx

P.S. The problem with mine is NOT a mapping issue, it's mechanical, so the exhaust needs to come to bits.

99greenwagon

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StuS

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User error!

Sabas

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Simon will listen to the engine and if he thinks it is excessively noisy then he won't map it

I know mine is noisy and it's a risk you take

stonejedi

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EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport

Personally I'm a new mapper on Scoobynet, but not new in the mapping world. From my point of view if I was able to make an engine explode due to a map fault then I would stand up and rebuild and remap.

I would say that 100% of mapped engines that fail after mapping are due to a mechanical problem/electrical issue or poor maintenance or mechnical sympothy and cannot be attributed to mapper however hard you try.

100% of mapped engines that fail whilst in my hands, (2 out of 40 scoobs so far) are due to unhealthy mechanicals, worn or old parts etc etc. Mappers use technical equipment allowing us to detect engine problems far before anyone else would know. For example I had a car last week that seemed perfect, but when extracting another 80bhp and 40% more boost I could hear a slight tapping through the det cans. Nursing it back to my workshop off boost, (2miles), it turned from det can only audiable noise into full on knocking. The bearings just gave up under the pressure with no prior warning. The other failure was a crack in the piston land and was running 300bhp still! Both have been stripped and rebuilt and remapped with great success.

It should be very difficult to destroy an engine from mapping alone, unless the mapper really doesn't understand what they are doing.

Graham

stedee

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i was going to say good mappers will know if the engine is dodgy or not in the first place and they will tell you "i aint mapping that its about to let go"

to the op trl "the racing line" is a good, matt knows his stuff and very helpful but
rs tuning is a joke and a rip off - stay clear ,been there done it wont go back