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Old 09 March 2011, 04:29 PM
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Question Bug eye scooby question

Hi been to look at a bug eye scooby sti but have a few questions first its a jap import car is their and differences between jap and uk cars ? its an 05 car with 6 speed box what kind of bhp can the engine take before needing to forge the engine not going to be daily driver just fun weekend car and also what things to look out for any commen problems with this year car

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Old 09 March 2011, 04:50 PM
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If you do a quick search mate this question gets asked a lot on here!

Generally JDM (apparently) has stronger internals and a twin scroll turbo, amongst other differences. Plus other refinements that the UK cars did not get i.e. rear wiper, auto intercooler spray etc.
Old 09 March 2011, 04:59 PM
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05 would be a blob sti not a bug eye so be weary if it isn't a blob front end JDM imprezas come with 320bhp if I remember correctly but I'm sure someone with more knowledge will be along to help you out shortly
Old 09 March 2011, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue and Gold
05 would be a blob sti not a bug eye so be weary if it isn't a blob front end JDM imprezas come with 320bhp if I remember correctly but I'm sure someone with more knowledge will be along to help you out shortly
As above regarding the year - the bugeye model only ran from 00 to 02 I believe.
I >believe< that the JDM cars have a higher rev limit, stronger internals, and often are fitted with different turbos to their UK equivalents.
IIRC they're 300bhp, whereas the UK STI's are 265bhp. UK models with the PPP pack came with 300bhp.

Here's a full list of JDM model bhp from SIDC:
Bug eye WRX Sti V7 300
Bug eye V7 Spec C 310
Bug eye V7 Spec C RA 320
Bug eye S202 320


Bug eye WRX Sti V7 UK 265
Bug eye WRX Sti V7 UK PPP 300

However, the downside is obviously much higher insurance premiums and also you may end up with some parts which aren't what you expect and may cost more to replace or source!
Difference on a UK model is you're more likely to know what you have.

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Old 09 March 2011, 05:16 PM
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sorry lads my mistake its a 52 reg so 02 not 05
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I don't agree on the insurance premium part, never been much difference for me having owned UK and JDM. I also don't agree on you're more likely to know what you have, if you buy from a genuine seller who's looked after the car then it doesn't matter whether it's UK or JDM.

From my own research (and I did a lot), gear ratios aside, you are getting more for your money with a JDM model.
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Any link to the car ?

Run of the mil Bug STi JDM's have a few changes over the UK models but mechanically very similar (unless it's a special edition ).

You can mod these to about 400 BHP without having to start swapping engine internals

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http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi.../sti?logcode=p

this is the car cheers lads the more info the better for me
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Had a look at it yesterday and its clean, ran fine no strange noises that was starting from cold been standing 4 days without starting only bad point is the last owner had parking sensors fitted to rear bumper
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Is the standard ecu mappable on these cars ?
and also when looking for parts what engine code should i use sya if i was looking for exhaust?

sorry for all the questions new to scoobs been with toyotas for a few years
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Originally Posted by ste_brough
I don't agree on the insurance premium part, never been much difference for me having owned UK and JDM. I also don't agree on you're more likely to know what you have, if you buy from a genuine seller who's looked after the car then it doesn't matter whether it's UK or JDM.

From my own research (and I did a lot), gear ratios aside, you are getting more for your money with a JDM model.
Depends who you're insured with mate.
On a JDM Celica I had, insurance was £500 more a year than the UK equivalent.
It's also fair enough if you don't agree on what you "know you have" - just remember you asked for opinions, and I gave mine.
Remember - the JDM model is unlikely to have service history in English, nor a service manual, any receipts etc. that you'll be able to read.
That will make it much harder to determine what is or isn't fitted, how it's been maintained, who by, and what's been spent on it.
If you're an experienced mechanic who knows his stuff, and knows the differences between the cars and what to look for then fair enough none of that may matter to you.

Obviously the advantage of JDM is you're more likely to get a cheaper, often better condition low mileage example (which was why I bought my old Celica in the first place).

Also worth mentioning that some dealers choose not to service JDM models (if that's something you would do).

Final point worth considering is that the seller isn't exactly a sports car dealer and the price is pretty high considering it's a JDM model.
When you look at what else is on the Autotrader I'd pass - but then that's my opinion from my own personal experience.

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Old 10 March 2011, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by KrisBuc
Had a look at it yesterday and its clean, ran fine no strange noises that was starting from cold been standing 4 days without starting only bad point is the last owner had parking sensors fitted to rear bumper
You should be able to pick up a 2nd hand bumper and get it painted ready to swap over. Assuming you didn't want the sensors anymore.

Originally Posted by KrisBuc
Is the standard ecu mappable on these cars ?
and also when looking for parts what engine code should i use sya if i was looking for exhaust?

sorry for all the questions new to scoobs been with toyotas for a few years
It can be mapped very easily. Stick on a sports cat, 2nd cat delete pipe,a cat back exhaust, fuel pump, panel filter and plugs and you'll see 320-330 with a map.

Exhaust wise you have lots of options;

Hayward & Scott: www.haywardandscott.com

Scoobyworld: http://www.scoobyworld.co.uk/catalog...085917a5153031

To be honest if you're not looking to go past that sort of power stick with a sports cat and a 2.5 inch system

You will be able to pick up lots of the bits 2nd hand if you look around.
Old 10 March 2011, 01:09 PM
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Looks like a standard JDM Bug STi from the advert.........have to agree with Pink above

What was the thing glued to the dash above the digital clock ??

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Old 10 March 2011, 05:04 PM
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Is there history and/or old mot's to support the low mileage? JDM cars traditionally command higher 2nd hand values due to their superiority and rarity over uk cars. I presume you know when it was imported into the uk and how many owners itd had? Im on my 2nd jdm sti, both cars had the original Japanese auction certificate and a Subaru jdm manual in English - these originate from New Zealand
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Originally Posted by Bugeye_Scoob
As above regarding the year - the bugeye model only ran from 00 to 02 I believe.
I >believe< that the JDM cars have a higher rev limit, stronger internals, and often are fitted with different turbos to their UK equivalents.
IIRC they're 300bhp, whereas the UK STI's are 265bhp. UK models with the PPP pack came with 300bhp.

Here's a full list of JDM model bhp from SIDC:
Bug eye WRX Sti V7 280ps
Bug eye V7 Spec C 280ps
Bug eye V7 Spec C RA 280ps
Bug eye S202 320ps


Bug eye WRX Sti V7 UK 265ps
Bug eye WRX Sti V7 UK PPP 305ps

However, the downside is obviously much higher insurance premiums and also you may end up with some parts which aren't what you expect and may cost more to replace or source!
Difference on a UK model is you're more likely to know what you have.
Not quite right so ive ammended the above for you
The only one that has anything more than 280ps is the S202 which is quoted at 320ps (or 316bhp) out of the factory, anything above the 280ps on the others is a bonus, they all run very similar maps so all put out very similar power (though the standard STI had a vf30 and the spec c had a vf34 along with the S202).

Tony
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yeah mate got history since being in country old MOT`s and tax disks
car had 2 owners last one part ex it for jag 3ltr auto
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Very tidy looking car,low milage and I like the Japesque low rear spoiler on the Sti.

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On the sevicing side you should be fine,our local Subaru dealer serviced and did an mot on mine.
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not really bothered about servicing as my brotheris a mechanic and works with aston martins and other expensive stuff so i cheap little scoob is nothing
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got the car pick it up on sat
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Mines a JDM bug, at first it was insured as a uk model (my typo mistake on quote) ive now changed ot to import and the insurance hardly changed. Also had no problem with parts at my subaru dealer.
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Originally Posted by KrisBuc
got the car pick it up on sat
Pics on Saturday then mate
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Bug Sti bargain of the century........ Bulletproof drivetrain, AVCS, Inverted suspension and Brembo's. Easy to map Denso ECU and all the rest

Nice choice

In the pics please post a pic of what's glued above the clock...... looks like a turbo timer or a boost controller LOL

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Thing on dash is control box for parking sensors that are fitted the old bloke who had it obviously had trouble reverse parking
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The best place for the parking sensor stuff is e-bay IMHO

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Originally Posted by Bugeye_Scoob
Depends who you're insured with mate.
Of course

Originally Posted by Bugeye_Scoob
It's also fair enough if you don't agree on what you "know you have" - just remember you asked for opinions, and I gave mine.
No I didn't

Originally Posted by Bugeye_Scoob
Obviously the advantage of JDM is you're more likely to get a cheaper, often better condition low mileage example (which was why I bought my old Celica in the first place).
I've found the opposite to be true, especially with Imprezas, they tend to be more expensive. I had a couple of JDM MR2 turbos and the same was true for these as well.

Originally Posted by Bugeye_Scoob
Final point worth considering is that the seller isn't exactly a sports car dealer and the price is pretty high considering it's a JDM model.
When you look at what else is on the Autotrader I'd pass - but then that's my opinion from my own personal experience.
Price looks about right! (If anything a little low!)
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I thought price of car was ok but still haggled and got money off going towards an exhaust
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would this fit my car ?
http://www.japperformanceparts.co.uk...p?ID=100870093
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Originally Posted by ste_brough
Of course



No I didn't



I've found the opposite to be true, especially with Imprezas, they tend to be more expensive. I had a couple of JDM MR2 turbos and the same was true for these as well.



Price looks about right! (If anything a little low!)
MR2 turbos will always be dear here though mate as they were never sold in the UK. Quick though, and always like that model, just a bit tail happy!
I actually looked at GT4's before I bought the scoob but they're just too much money for what you get in terms of age, etc.
I suspect much of the difference in terms of JDM insurance will also be down to age of the car and the age of the driver.
When I had my JDM Celica I was only 24 after all..
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Originally Posted by KrisBuc
It should fit your car mate.
Give Saj a ring - he'll be able to tell you for sure.
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