ASTRA VXR!!! :(
10 May 2010, 11:03 AM
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ASTRA VXR!!! :(
hello people...i was up against a vxr last night and was shocked how he completley bumed me!!! cant not belive the proformance of them things!!...is this usual for a vxr to eat a standard sti type r or has he got a few secrets under the bonnet???
10 May 2010, 11:37 AM
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Ive driven one and they are VERY torquey at low revs. It was standard too. I was quite impressed but they do run out of puff at higher revs. I could only imagine what a remapped one would feel like. Quite swift I bet!
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10 May 2010, 11:39 AM
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My friends S3 (260bhp) could keep up with my STI (300bhp).. First with me leading then with him in front... only difference in performance was driver nerve in the end. (on a track of course)
gona invest in one myself
10 May 2010, 12:03 PM
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Go for the decat and remap, if possible, first, (some ecu's can't be remappped and need an aftermarket one......I know, I was that man),, and take advice on the FMIC.
My UK classic gained over 60bhp from a better TMIC, Full decat, 3-port boost solenoid and a Bob Rawle remap via a LINK ecu.
I'm sure yours could do the same, and with a 280bhp starting point, would be pretty quick. Your turbo might run out of puff though, so ask around before doing anything.
lol he took it at quite some speed but i didnt see the car struggle at all!!
10 May 2010, 12:06 PM
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Forget the induction, unless it's an STi panel filter.
Go for the decat and remap, if possible, first, (some ecu's can't be remappped and need an aftermarket one......I know, I was that man),, and take advice on the FMIC.
My UK classic gained over 60bhp from a better TMIC, Full decat, 3-port boost solenoid and a Bob Rawle remap via a LINK ecu.
I'm sure yours could do the same, and with a 280bhp starting point, would be pretty quick. Your turbo might run out of puff though, so ask around before doing anything.
Go for the decat and remap, if possible, first, (some ecu's can't be remappped and need an aftermarket one......I know, I was that man),, and take advice on the FMIC.
My UK classic gained over 60bhp from a better TMIC, Full decat, 3-port boost solenoid and a Bob Rawle remap via a LINK ecu.
I'm sure yours could do the same, and with a 280bhp starting point, would be pretty quick. Your turbo might run out of puff though, so ask around before doing anything.
10 May 2010, 12:08 PM
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I've very recently swapped my 06 Plate STI with PPP (expecting our 2nd baby in due course - so needed the space) which was putting out a proven 316/335 for a 57 plate Vectra VXR which I have now got a Thorney motorsport Bluefin on. With just the Bluefin installed the Vectra VXR prodcues 300+ bhp and 350lbs/ft Torque and is as quick if not margionally quicker in a straight line than my STI was - granted it's not going to win any trophy's off the line but on the move the Vectra is definatley as quick.
We put it side by side next to my mates standard Mk2 RS at the weekend (private test track naturally) and from a rolling start the Vectra actually pulled out a 2 car's length lead in just under a mile - neither of us could quite believe it but that was the end result.
As mentioned technology has definately moved on and the likes of the Focus ST, Astra VXR, Megane CUP's etc etc are all able to provide straight line performance that will easily match the WRX and in many cases the standard STI's. Of course straight line performance is all well and good, but many of these FWD hot hatches (including the Vectra VXR) are nowhere near as good in the corners - that's where the good old 4WD system in the Scooby will usually win outright.
We put it side by side next to my mates standard Mk2 RS at the weekend (private test track naturally) and from a rolling start the Vectra actually pulled out a 2 car's length lead in just under a mile - neither of us could quite believe it but that was the end result.
As mentioned technology has definately moved on and the likes of the Focus ST, Astra VXR, Megane CUP's etc etc are all able to provide straight line performance that will easily match the WRX and in many cases the standard STI's. Of course straight line performance is all well and good, but many of these FWD hot hatches (including the Vectra VXR) are nowhere near as good in the corners - that's where the good old 4WD system in the Scooby will usually win outright.
10 May 2010, 12:29 PM
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my guess is the vxr was fettled with. the short ratio on the type should make it leave the vxr pretty easy if it was standard, up to a certain speed anyway.
on anything but bone dry roads the vxr will be a spec in the mirror, went out with a mate whos running about 300 in his, my classic at 340 was marginal quicker in a straight line at speed (very marginal), off the line and low speeds he was nowhere and twisties he was nowhere, i wans't even trying and he said he couldn't keep up. the roads were a bit damp though.
on anything but bone dry roads the vxr will be a spec in the mirror, went out with a mate whos running about 300 in his, my classic at 340 was marginal quicker in a straight line at speed (very marginal), off the line and low speeds he was nowhere and twisties he was nowhere, i wans't even trying and he said he couldn't keep up. the roads were a bit damp though.
10 May 2010, 12:53 PM
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As mentioned already , with the weight it will have a better power to weight ratio , the VXR will probably have a remap and you're 10 yr old will have lost a bit of power .
New cars nowaday will give us a bit of a shock , a bit like the leon cupra FR on the motorway , WOW it was quick .
New cars nowaday will give us a bit of a shock , a bit like the leon cupra FR on the motorway , WOW it was quick .
276bhp
10 May 2010, 01:15 PM
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10 May 2010, 01:24 PM
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We need to keep evolving... We owe it to ourselves to stay at least 100bhp ahead of the hot hatch brigade. Preferably 200bhp ahead! I remember being embarrassed by a VW Passat diesel in my old 2 litre. OK I was in the wrong gear... but still a PASSAT for Christs sake! AND he was wearing a flat cap. 
Don't have any troubles like that now in my 2.5 classic!
Don't have any troubles like that now in my 2.5 classic!
10 May 2010, 01:31 PM
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Subaru currently manufacture three models that would dismiss any other standard 'hot hatch' in the straight line dash to 100mph or in a point to point over a B road and by a country mile. Technology has moved on since the Subarus of the 1990s.
i agree...subaru need to wake up and get back to the drawing bored....more power less ****