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Old 20 August 2009, 08:49 AM
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I am sure most of you have seen and heard that old golf gti's tend to be a lot (abit) faster that the newer models. Not sure how long ago but I watched a comparision on Top Gear a few years ago with the old gti against new and the old won pretty much everything. I am sure this is only down to power to weight ratio.

Now it got me thinking.

Is this the same sort of thing for early WRX's (clasic's) against new age WRX's. I am talking about completely standard WRX no mods at all.

Let me know your thoughts.
Old 20 August 2009, 09:02 AM
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most likely, yes. All newer cars are getting heavier so it make sense.
Old 20 August 2009, 10:46 AM
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The older cars are lighter, the newer cars more power/better handling. It would be good to get 2 standard ones round a track!
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The brakes on a 2002 WRX are SO much better than my 97 "Catalunya"s were....
Old 20 August 2009, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dunx
The brakes on a 2002 WRX are SO much better than my 97 "Catalunya"s were....
Jesus, that doesn't say much for the Catalunya's brakes! My WRX brakes are like squishing trifle between two teaplates.........what did you have, BMX brakes gripping the sidewalls?
Old 20 August 2009, 12:43 PM
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Actually quite different cars.

The old WRXs were speedy imports iirc 1235kg and 280 bhp. Newage WRXs in 2001 were 215bhp and 1385kg, although the bhp has gradually increased and of course now they are 2.5s of course.

I bought a 2001 WRX 3 yrs ago and modded it through Andy Forrest. Great car now, but I should have really bought an STi!

Incidentally, the comparison you saw was a few yrs back. Reckon the current 200bhp GTi's would beat the 1970's version, despite it's lardiness (seem to recall the first was 105bhp, which I though was awesome compared to my 70bhp 1986 Nova SR many, many yrs ago. ).

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Early wrx's were 240 bhp, then 260, and up to 280 bhp and a lot lighter than anything newer, so i would think that early cars would be a lot faster than newer ones, of course this is standard and I stand to be corrected.
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Originally Posted by mylesthegreat(not!)
Jesus, that doesn't say much for the Catalunya's brakes! My WRX brakes are like squishing trifle between two teaplates.........what did you have, BMX brakes gripping the sidewalls?
I'm not hard on brakes, most of my cars have managed 30,000+ miles before needing discs and pads on the front, except....

My "Cat" needed full replacement of the fronts at 14,500 The discs were "shattered" and the pads almost none existent ! The warranty replacements only just lasted till it reached 30,000 miles. Really needed four pots like the "S" plate cars....

LOL

dunx

P.S. My point being that a "new" WRX would use it's brakes to far greater advantage on a given circuit, my pal has a tidy 2002 WRX and my STI isn't that much quicker, unless I unleash all 400 bhp....

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I had a MKII 16V GTI and it managed 140 bhp at the wheels, it wasn't that much slower than the Catalunya I bought, except it needed bone dry tarmac to do it's "thing", of course a Scooby doesn't !

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