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Old 16 April 2009, 01:47 PM
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Question what sort of power?

what sort of power will i be looking at with a re-map on my 53reg sti ppp?
got a sports cat with blitz exhaust, sti panel filter.
but will i have to fit a walbro fuel pump or do they come fitted with a bigger pump?
Old 16 April 2009, 01:48 PM
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I,d say around 340ish, your pump will be fine...
Old 16 April 2009, 02:08 PM
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I'd pitch in slightly lower at 300-330 (depending on your engine's ability to resist pre-detination).
Most probably 320ish
Old 16 April 2009, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby L
I'd pitch in slightly lower at 300-330 (depending on your engine's ability to resist pre-detination).
Most probably 320ish

But he has 300 now doesn,t with the PPP??? So they claim....
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Yes that figure varies on the car... I've known of some 03 PPP's getting 280 on the rollers..
Old 16 April 2009, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby L
Yes that figure varies on the car... I've known of some 03 PPP's getting 280 on the rollers..


Yes, hence my suspicion..
Old 16 April 2009, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete
Yes, hence my suspicion..
The reason why I'm not a PPP "fan".

The PPP is flawed in every way. It cannot give the customer the maximum (or even 85% )of power/torque the engine can provide with reletive safety because of Subaru UK having to cover it under the warranty... but it's also a generic map, so not even customised to the engine.



It's like Prodrive have been neutered

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Old 16 April 2009, 02:31 PM
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^^^^ Agree 100%, a stand alone ROAD map is the only way imo.....
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+1

Bob Rawle did my 2003 STI and I'll be going to him or JGM when I have the 2008 STI done.
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Originally Posted by scooby L
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Bob Rawle did my 2003 STI and I'll be going to him or JGM when I have the 2008 STI done.


Yes, Bob mapped my TYPE-R in Jan, drives superb i must say..

All the best with the 2008 STI ........
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I have seen PPP cars push over their quoted figures, also under, but they have more safety features built into the map than other "custom" maps, hence on high inlet temps they retard more (so lower figures for new age STI's).
But I would expect 340ish also on a remap.

Tony

PS my PPP'd classic made pretty much spot on its quoted power figure (249.4bhp)
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Tony,

So PPP cars will never do "as well" on Rollers as a custom mapped car of equal power (due to heat soak etc)... giving a false low reading?
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Originally Posted by scooby L
Tony,

So PPP cars will never do "as well" on Rollers as a custom mapped car of equal power (due to heat soak etc)... giving a false low reading?

^^^^^ this is also what i was told, by a few different people. Inlet temp safety feature.

Lee
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"codie247 thinks PPP might not be enough!! "





I know that feeling!!

I spoke to a mechanic at my local dealer the other day, he said they get in Subaru's which have obviously been "played with" and have gone wrong for one reason or another, but they still fix em under warranty (need the money) and IM still pay them if they ok the work... that was an eye opener.
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so me fuel pump is sound for around 330ish, i will be happy with that ( for now anyway lol) it should be better on fuel too should`nt it?
my old classic was after a re-map!
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Dazz,

Yes, as said, pump will be fine fella.....
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