crf450r

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what would be the cheapest way to get into rallying or any off road racing,
getting the urge to race

RA Dunk

have you thought about hillclimbing/sprinting

crf450r

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not sure what to do dunk might buy an old nova or saxo nd just strip it out,,would love to do it in my scoob but dont fancy the damage

dunx

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Rallycross ?

Can start with a mini and goes all the way to WRC !

dunx

RA Dunk

Ive been doing the odd trackday for the last couple of years but fancy something a bit more competative now so im getting into sprints, got my sprint license last week from MSA, got a few links to help you if you fancy it

Sprint Beginners Guide

Rough Guide to Hillclimbing & Sprinting

HSA - for information on hillclimbs and sprints in the UK

http://www.msauk.org/custom/asp/home/default.asp

Big Power :: View Forum - Sprints

GroupNGC8

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You could have a go at co-driving as a cheap way of rallying but if you want to drive I'd suggest buying a ready to run car is the cheapest method. Stripping out a car is a great idea but in reality will cost you lots more in time & money. Some good options on motorsport ads and on pistonheads for a reasonable budget. Get your competition licence and do a few single venue events to get your eye in so to speak.
But as with any motorsport 'cheap' is a realtive phrase and your car WILL become a money pit.

Good Luck though
Rob

Steve001

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join a local motor club (msa website has links) and start doing road rallys, my first road rally cost me £70 entry! i nicked my wifes run-a-bout to do it and i went from there the biggest trick is to get someone who can read OS maps in the seat next to you. some road rallys are closed to club so you dont even need a comp licence to start with

steve

phil739

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autograss might be a cheap way of starting

Sclarke

Quick word to the wise if you decide to go down an organised route such as sprints/hillclimbs/racing etc make sure you decide what class and type of car you need/want BEFORE you go stripping it and making it fall outside of the class regulations. A lot of entry level motorsport requires all the trims etc to be left in and only allows mods to engine, brakes etc. Worth reading some of the local regs for events you might want to enter to get an idea.

Steve001

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register with this forum

you will get all the info you need

British Rally • Index page

steve

GC8

Are road rallies any fun now (or since you stopped hooning about)? Id consider sprinting or karting. beyond that everything is very expensive. Single stage rallies will be the cheapest Id have thought, or a limited championship like the 205 one, but even then the costs will go way beyond the £3,000-odd youll need for an OK car...

wrxsti8

Hi crf450r
If you want a cheap form of offroad racing checkout www.national-autograss.co.uk you mentioned stripping out a saxo or nova type small hatch that would be a nasa class 2 car, obviously there are rules to abide to safety aswell as car spec. I raced both in class 3 and class 7 on and off over a period of 16 years my wife also raced my last 2 cars until I got her pregnant (that slowed her down lol ). Anyway I`d recommend checking it out it teaches excellent car control which helps no end on the road with the driving conditions we`ve had this week. There are clubs all over the uk inc. Ireland but not Scotland don`t know why.

Phil739 you mentioned autograss have you or do you particapate?

Oh by the way I`d recommend buying a car rather than building a first one there is usually a few on ebay.
regards wrxsti8

phil739

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no but haveasked the question myself as very keen on this and would to learn some more info on it , if you can help


cheers phil

crf450r

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had a good look at autograss website thanks wrxsti8
think this could be the way to go looks cheap and good fun
ill keep my eye out for a ready to race car
ebay here i come!!! if anyone has a mini or suitable drop me a pm please
thanks all

wrxsti8

Phil739 checkout the link on my previous post if i can answer any questions I will.
crf450r I had years of enjoyment and yes it is highly addictive. I still race anything with 4 wheels and an engine whenever I get a chance mind you never on the road too many people going the wrong way .
The Autograss season starts around march and lasts till sept. oct. time.
Check out a local club meeting and see what its all about before rushing out and buying a car. If you let me know your area I might know of a club close by. Or if you are dead set on buying a car I still have a lot of good friends and contacts within the sport.

phil739

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cheers bud , will give it a read

and am from leicester

wrxsti8

phil739 on the autograss website click on venue then england then east midlands and you`ll see your local club is at shepshed. If you have`nt done that already of course. You don`t have to join the nearest club to you. You might want to visit a few first and you don`t have to be a member every race meeting is open to the public for a small entrance fee. You only have to join a club if you was to start racing.

phil739

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going to pop down to the next meet
by what i can gather class 2 would be a good cheap starting point

one question. do you need any form on licence to race? keep seeing the word nasa ???

crf450r - hope you dont mind me crashing your thread

wrxsti8

Phil739 yes you do need a licence to race but these are issued by Nasa the autograss organisers not the spaceship people. When I last raced you only had to send off for it there was no ards type exam or anything. Your choice of club would be able to advise.
Autograss is cheap to take part in as in entering race meetings as a driver Your major expense is how much you choose to spend on a car and then the running expenses tyres are cheap and can be bought from autograss suppliers.
My club chairman supplies parts to autograssers and is one of the most helpful & friendly person I have ever met his website is www.bpgrassing.co.uk & his name is Dave Robins.
Go for it you only live once.

crf450r

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no prob phil shepshed is only 15 mins from me so thats my nearest too, let me know when your going and ill come and have a look with you..
sti8 have an ask around for me please class 1 or 2 sounds best for now

wrxsti8

Dave Robins is the best person to speak to about a class one or two - he has built loads of class ones in the years I've known him and both him and his 18 year old son were in the finals for class one at the National Autograss Championships - with the son coming 2nd - thats the top 10 drivers / cars in the country!

He is bound to know of any that are for sale for either class and is extremely helpful & knowledgeable.

There is also a publication by Jeffrey Parrish called Autograss Review - www.autograss.net/AutograssReview/ - which runs both car and spares ads all year - there is a subscription link and I think it is £25 for ten issues - it is a good starting poiint.

If you speak to Dave at BP Grassing mention Simon & Hilary gave you his details and you are interested in getting into Grassing. It has becomie a full time job for him selling spares, cars etc, so if you get his number of the BP grassing site you can call him anytime (almost!)

Good luck & let me know how you get on - if you have any other questions please ask.....

phil739

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if you fancy going to the first meet at shepshed let me know we can meet there ..

you on midland scoobies???

MOTORS S GT

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Some road rallies now are basically stage rallies run to road rally regs, like the Twilight in Wales, which have most of its mileage in forests & militery private ground, although cars are to road rally spec, a very good event without anything coming the other way ? with a very cheap entry.

phil739

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crf450r - found this aswell

eBay.co.uk Guides - Autograss Motor Racing Own Drive a Race Car for 500

bit more reading , only problem is the more i read the more confused i get..lol

crf450r

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ok phil meet you there do you know when it is??
i do go on mid scoobs sometimes not much though

cheers bren

GC8

Sounds interesting, although I wouldnt like to take a 'road rally' car into a forest satge: how do they survive? Id have thought that something like an airfield stage rally would have been more suitable?