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hi guys,

Can someone please help ? i have recently purchased a 2001 bugeye wrx, the car was RR in december at WRC Technologies and ran 286 bhp at 1.1 bar.

i know the car still has the td04 fitted, a full cobra 3" zorst from turbo back and a K&N typhoon kit fitted, the car also has the certificate for the PPP in the pack when it was new ....

So my question is would the car run 286 bhp with the above as it seems too much power for so little mods, OR do you think it would have had a ecutek at sometime to boost the power to reach the 286 ? i do not have any ecutek certificate or anything in the pack ??? also the previous guy i brought it off said he thought the car had been to scoobyclinic for a remap, but was not sure as the previous owner b4 him did all the mods .

How can i find out what chip is fitted to the car ? any visual way ,

Thanks for any advise, as i want to start upgrading the power, but need to know what is already fitted ? also does the car get a uprated fuel pump at PPP stage ?

thanks guys and looking forward to some answers

rich08

isnt it standard at 260bhp or something around that anyways??

L.J.F

iTrader: (31)

it sounds like your car is running on a prodrive ecu mate as they are setup to 1.1-1.2 bar of boost. If you had a mapped ecu by one on the aftermarket specialists in would be running more boost.

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iTrader: (1)

hi guys , thanks for ur help.

i did read somewhere , the PPP pack only gave 245 bhp on the wrx bugeye ?? which is why i assumed it may have had a aftermarket remap, as 46 bhp from a zorst and a filter is a big ask. but i could be wrong, but if the PPP does make 260 standard, then i would believe the extra 28bhp was from the zorst and a filter.

does anyone know if the PPP pack does include a uprated fuel pump.

thanks again guys for ur help !!

dunx

iTrader: (3)

No visual clues, it's a laptop job, and I would politely suggest it's DEFFO been Ecutek'd to reach that figure. IIRC the Prodrive PPP should have included an up-rated fuel pump.

HTH

DunxC

Mark'sWRX

I would say it had defo had a remap to reach that power. I'd call Scoobyclinic and ask if they have any records of it. 286 is a very good figure with the td04, but I don't think the uprated fuel pump came with the wrx ppp, only the STi.

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iTrader: (1)

hey guys, thanks again for ur input....

i have called scoobyclinic and they do not keep records of ecutek remaped cars, but they did say to take it to them and they can put it on the RR and check with the computer .....

BUT, i have now looked again at the RR results and they show a 1st run at 242.9 hp and then another run at 286.1 hp , so can i now confirm the car has had a remap done at WRC technologies as the graphs show ? as you guys have suggested ....

now should i call WRC technologies and confirm with them whether they know of the car , as i want to add a new turbo and fmic and up pipe etc, so would want another remap, am i correct here or talking ****e lol.

cheers again for ur help guys !!

290 AND READY

sounds like a plan mate.
What turbo you putting on?
What other mods you got ready for the remap?

Mark'sWRX

I believe that WRC technologies have gone bust, so you'll have to find another mapper. Unfortunately, that means paying for a whole new map, not just a tweak.

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Well the figures are either total bs or your car isnt running 1.1 bar
1.1 bar equates to about 250bhp with that tdo4.

Tony

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iTrader: (1)

yes i heard that wrc had gone to the wall, but apparently race technologies are the same guys, so i am gonna try and locate them ,

i am thinking of a vf35 turbo , headers and decat up pipe, plus 550 injectors , walbro pump ( in not already fitted ) and a front mount , then the remap again.

Tony, i have the RR print outs here mate and they show 286.1 bhp at 1.1 bar and i defo have a td04 ? , having been on other scooby forums it seems the guys at wrc know what they are doing with their maps, and other scooby owners have had similar bhp figures with the same mods ... so it might be right ? but i would have thought the life of the td04 will not be long lol.

Thanks again for the info guys, i do appreciate ur help.

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Well 1.1 bar equates to 250bhp, you would need to push 1.3-1.4 bar to reach 280bhp on a tdo4, even a modified one, so its either not standard or its not a TD04
Prodrive map these cars on the ppp to 1.1 bar, that = 250bhp, and they are very conservative with their mapping.
The standard car runs .9 bar, or 225ps.

Tony

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

I shall add that my MY00 ran 1.2bar@260bhp, that was with defi gauges fitted

Tony

lsm

iTrader: (1)

hi tony, it is a td04, as i have checked it, so if ur right with ur figures ... then how is the RR showing 286 ? lol

Wow i have just seen how may posts u have !! do u not get out much lol

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Rolling roads are not an accurate measure of performance or power, if they are not calibrated then they will mis read.
Plus I would be impressed to see a JDM V5 STi with a bigger turbo (lower psi per bhp) run 1.1@286bhp
And ive been on here a few years well 8 and a bit now

Tony

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iTrader: (1)

so do u think the previous owner had a bigger turbo on when it was RR and then replaced it with the td04 when they sold the car now that would be my luck lol,

if this was the case tho, the standard un mapped run at 242.9 would surely be more esp with the mods already fitted to the car ...

if the remap was done with a bigger turbo fitted, then would the car not run rough with only a td04 on or am i talking ****e lol

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

OK, the PPP pushed out 245bhp on the MY01 cars@1.1 bar, so its pretty much on target (mine pushed out 249bhp of the quoted 250bhp), but a remap would push it up to about 280bhp, but more like 1.3-1.4bar

Tony

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iTrader: (1)

cheers for ur info tony mate, but the graphs defo show 1.1 bar , so i am even more confused than before lol, but thanks again fir ur time and knowledge.

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

It could still be that the rolling road was not calibrated correctly, you would have to put the car on another rolling road to confirm it though

Tony

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iTrader: (1)

having done some back ground work including speaking to the previous previous owner lol, i can confirm the car was always fitted with td04 and did have a ecutek remap over the PPP package, i also spoke to Race solutions at silverstone who did the remap and can confirm the td04 is running 286 bhp at 1.1 bar on a td04 as the RR figures show, so i am happy with the result and really looking forward to a VF35 plus more goodies and another remap

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

The boost is still wrong for that bhp figure, its going to be more like 1.4 bar, take it to another rolling road to confirm this, but as ive said, 1.1 bar on a TD04 wont reach 286bhp

Tony

New_scooby_04

iTrader: (4)

Could be a number of reasons why a RR would overestimate bhp mate; so many variables and that's assuming the operator isn't fiddling things deliberately (not suggesting that WRC technologies did)

You defo won't be getting a genuine 280bhp out of a Td04 at 1.1 bar though. So that figure is spurious, or the spec of the car was different when the reading was taken!

Ns04

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iTrader: (1)

dont know the answer guys !! i dont know why a mapper would fiddle the results or whether they could even do that ?. i think i just have a special car, that is running a missive td04 lol, something like herbie of the tv lol

i may book it in for a RR run , just so what the bhp is ?, as i dont want to spend money on a vf,headers,fmic etc and only get 300 bhp on a new RR and think i have only achieved 14 bhp for over £1000 of extra's ... when really the initial stated 286 bhp figure was wrong.

thanks again for ur input guys.