elondan

What is it for? and how is it done?
Thank you.

rr_ww

http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/threa...threadid=64081

Hoppy

That's a good link. I had a go at this when I started doing track days and while it's easy to explain, it is VERY hard to do. And only practise somewhere VERY safe. Left-foot braking can be a bit scary when you forget which foot is on which pedal, and stamp on the brake because you thought it was the clutch

Fortunately, in a 4WD Scoob there's really no need for heel-n-toe. But in a front-engined RWD car (BMW say) it's almost essential to stop the rears locking under braking as you change down.

One of the great things about a Scoob is they're so easy to drive fast. The bad thing is, when you get it seriously wrong (which you will 'cos actually most of us are cr@p and only think we're good because of the car) you tend to be travelling frighteningly quickly

Stay safe

Richard.

clarence

I think u'll put less strain on the drivetrain and engine if u use heel & toe, not to mention it'll feel much smoother.

ade7624

In the good old days of Group 4 Escorts Ari Vattenenan (sp) used this method to great effect. I believe he actually ran courses on how to do it. I have a video of his somewhere showing the teqnique.
It is called "the Vattenenan touch" i think, a Duke video so should be still available somewhere.
Thinking about it Im sure I saw an advert in Motoring news recently for courses run by the man himself ?

Ade

Timo

NO NO.... "The Vatanen touch" is just a video abour Ari in the British rally championship.
There is a "Vatanen touch too" which was a second video about him, this was when he was driving for Subaru (lagacy days!).

There is a video called "The rally master". Very old video but follows Rauno Aalternen who is explaining left foot braking, heel & toe, and the good old Scandanavian Flick! Oh yes and also how to land after a jump.

You can go to be taught left foot braking by an expert, Pentti Arikala for about £250 - £300 for a day...Great bloke.

Why do you need to know all this anyway if you only drive your cars on the road or circuits. If you are not a pro and racing all the time it'll only slow you down beleive me, and in a scooby you dont need any of it so just stick to your conventional methods and get home safely avery night!!

It'll all end in tears!!

Tim

zax

How about the combined brake/accelerator pedal (invented by another Scandinavian):

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991770

It has safety devices to stop us doing both at the same time, but how long until "brake/accelerator electromagnet diasablers" are available at Halfords everythere...

ade7624

Timo
You are absoluteley correct
The gent concerned was Pentti Arikala
a bad case of Sunday brain fade i'm afraid
found the video in the cabinet inder the telly
It is called "The Arikala Technique"

Long live sideways Escorts !!!

Ade

Timo

Here Here !!!!

Tim

Richard Askew

www.leftfootbraking.com

velryba

I would say it’s only a plus.
You will found out your self once you start using it, as you keep the engine in revs you get gears in easier if going down in gears and much faster response. I can't imagine driving without.
Smoother, faster and maybe even safer.

Bombjack

http://www.drivingtechniques.co.uk

whip

If it's of any help to any budding H&T'ers out there I find the scoob is a tricky car to get the technique right.

On my last car (205 GTi) heel-n-toeing was a big help and was very easy to do due to the pedal size and placement, and the hair-trigger throttle response. I inadvertantly got used to braking and keeping the throttle slightly open as for years my inlet had an airleak so she'd try to stall at every junction until fully warmed up... After that it was an easy progression to jab the throttle on downchanges during brisk driving.

The scoob on the other hand, doesn't have anywhere near as much throttle feedback, has larger pedals which are spaced wider, and the engine isn't as snappy as something like the 205. Then you've got the turbo factor which makes it hard to predict how much throttle you'll need. Maybe I'll get better at it once I've fitted a louder backbox as I'll at least be able to hear what revs I'm at.

Whip

velryba

oh the pedals were the 1st thing I've changed and that was the 2nd day I've bought the car.
If you want to use H&T in Scoob u need bigger pedals so you don't end up slipping between them.

Timo

Come on chaps lets quit all this $hit and just go and get anti-lag systems fitted!! only £1500 and sound the dogs too on overrun!!!

Tim

robin ledger

Exactly, get a heap of s**t that doesn't tick over and you wil *soon * master the technique!!

velryba

hey Timo will you sponsor me ?

rsquire

Where the **** did those Left Foot Braking interuptions come from

The question was about Heel & Toe Technique.

Oh yeah Askew .... You're excused coz ya wouldnt' know ya Heel from ya Toe or ya Left Foot from ya Right



Richard