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Old 23 August 2007, 12:49 PM
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i'm looking at fitting a power fc but i was told by one garage that there not worth fittimng.
he said due the the 3rd piston running 200 - 300 degrees hotter than the others this ecu will just cause the piston to melt. He said that other ones are better suited as you can use them to change how the pistons are running to help this problem?

What shall i do. i already have the ecu so shall i dsell it an buy another or fit it. Two garages said it'd be fine...
Old 23 August 2007, 01:11 PM
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Speak to JollyGreenMonster.co.uk or Zen Performance - Performance upgrade solutions for Japanese cars or AndyForrestPerformance these are some of the people who use them (and to great effect ) and see what they say.
Old 23 August 2007, 01:15 PM
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Please name and shame the garage! Absolute tosh!
Old 23 August 2007, 01:31 PM
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Sounds like utter twaddle to me..........

Power FC is a very good and affordable aftermarket ecu used by nearly all of the respected scooby tuners.

Perhaps said garage was trying to flog you their own preferred ecu

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Old 23 August 2007, 02:12 PM
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the garage was torgue developments and they were advising motec ecu's. Thats out of my price range at the moment
Old 23 August 2007, 02:25 PM
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apexi power fc in a fab ecu, end off.

tes the motec is very good also, but both are only as good as the mapper!

i have had very good experience form both Paul @ zen performance, and Simon aka jollygreenmonster, both on this forum.

worth there weight in gold
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Originally Posted by osborne
the garage was torgue developments and they were advising motec ecu's. Thats out of my price range at the moment
it all becomes brilliantly clear, the motec ecu's are excellent but they are about 3 grand mapped, where as the apexi which also has an enviable reputation is about 950 mapped, wonder why they would try and sell the motec instead????????????????????
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I believe Andy F still runs 2 x Power FCs. Says it all really.
Old 23 August 2007, 03:37 PM
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Ha ha ha, if the 3rd cylinder ran 2-300 degrees hotter, that would be a major design flaw in the engine. Absolute B0llocks.

A Motec ECU and a days mapping will never match an Apexi PFC in driveability.
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thanks, worried me a bit lol.
Thought i'd brought the wrong ecu for the car!
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Originally Posted by osborne
i'm looking at fitting a power fc but i was told by one garage that there not worth fittimng.
he said due the the 3rd piston running 200 - 300 degrees hotter than the others this ecu will just cause the piston to melt. He said that other ones are better suited as you can use them to change how the pistons are running to help this problem?

What shall i do. i already have the ecu so shall i dsell it an buy another or fit it. Two garages said it'd be fine...


Mental note:Stay away from Torque Developments from now on
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lol...

Apexi also has injector trim so the reason given could be resolved on Apexi Power FC anyway.

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Old 26 August 2007, 12:59 AM
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Torque Developments are a bunch of muppets i would sty well clear.

They ****ed a good friend of mine around with his GT4 a couple of years back.

Also their customer service is appaulling and have you seen their hourly rate
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Originally Posted by MovingShadow
Torque Developments are a bunch of muppets i would sty well clear.

They ****ed a good friend of mine around with his GT4 a couple of years back.

Also their customer service is appaulling and have you seen their hourly rate

They shafted one of my workmates too, he said he was quoted circa £500 for some work, ended up they wouldn't let him have his car back unless he gave them over £2500 . And the car ran like a bag of s***e after
Old 26 August 2007, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by osborne
i'm looking at fitting a power fc but i was told by one garage that there not worth fittimng.
he said due the the 3rd piston running 200 - 300 degrees hotter than the others this ecu will just cause the piston to melt. He said that other ones are better suited as you can use them to change how the pistons are running to help this problem?

What shall i do. i already have the ecu so shall i dsell it an buy another or fit it. Two garages said it'd be fine...
Cant each individual cylinder be trimmed with the PFC? Its true that cylinder three is prone to failure, but this is due to its position at the end of the fuel rail (and being farthest from the oil pump too...).
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Originally Posted by Simon 69
Cant each individual cylinder be trimmed with the PFC? Its true that cylinder three is prone to failure, but this is due to its position at the end of the fuel rail (and being farthest from the oil pump too...).
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Old 26 August 2007, 04:11 PM
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Sorry Simon, I only read the whole thread after Id commented.....
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