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Old 31 December 2001, 11:13 PM
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I was driving full pelt last week and I had one of these bloody things in my rear mirror, could not believe it when the thing shot past me with no effort at all.

This must be the devils car!!

Barring a rocket launcher what Scooby would beat this thing, P1, WRX STi??
Old 01 January 2002, 01:23 AM
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Well the new shape M3 hits 60 in about 5.5 secs and tops out around
160mph so should be able to go past the average scooby turbo or WRX MY00-01.

The P1, Sti VII Type UK and even the UK300 should be able to keep up in a straight line. Its around the corners and bends that the superior suspension setup and AWD will mean the impreza can pull away.
Old 01 January 2002, 02:07 AM
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My scoob has a full scoobysport system, k&N airfilter, I use optimax and millers. 0-60 is 5.2secs, this thing just pulled away, had a look at the specs for the new M3 and most mags, road tests are quoting 4.8secs for 0-60.

This thing had some serious pulling power
Old 01 January 2002, 03:20 AM
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coming from Blackpool a few weeks ago and had the same thing happen to me

bl00dy bright yellow thing over took me.....BM new M3.......arrgh.......

try to keep up but no way..........that car is FAST!

got on to the bends but i think he knows the roads so i cant keep up with him......must be the SCS and the TCS on the M3 or eles i could of get past him!
haha

anyway
HAPPY NEW YEAR

and bewear of the icy roads..........

take care
Old 01 January 2002, 09:59 AM
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I think a lot of Scoob owners of the highest spec will be very surprised.
Old 01 January 2002, 10:23 AM
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Yeah - but think about this one.... just how much are they having to pay to have the privelige of owning a scooby-beater? I'd rather have a house than an M3
Old 01 January 2002, 10:36 AM
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I drove sideways M3 Evo ?? and he drove my Scooby about 8 months ago, it was a disappointing experience for me, cause I was looking at an M3 for my next car after the Scooby. I wasn't that impressed with the car stability / performance and overall cost!!!

Sideways was in my car for less than 2 minutes and said "the M3 is for sale". He then put twenty plus grand in the bank, and bought a nice wagon with the change, and hasn't looked back once!!!! He had all kinds of performance cars (Cossies, Cossie Merc, M3, etc) and rates the scooby overall at the top Not my words, his!!

My impression at that time was the M3 is seriously over-rated, although it was an old shape model.

Cheers Phill C
Old 01 January 2002, 11:15 AM
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babber, from all the articles ive read, all the programmes ive watched, the new m3 is a MUCH better car than the previous version.
i still think a used sti5 is a much better performance bargain than a new m3, but the new m3 appears to be such a good allrounder, whereas the scooby can be a little one dimensional.
i will know better when i get a test drive. if the 330ci is anything to go by, i imagine the new m3 is fabulous.
just wish i had 42k to get one
Old 01 January 2002, 12:17 PM
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Its around the corners and bends that the superior suspension setup and AWD will mean the impreza can pull away

got on to the bends but i think he knows the roads so i cant keep up with him......must be the SCS and the TCS on the M3 or eles i could of get past him!
haha


Of course it is..... there is no way it could keep up with you otherwise.... nothing to do with the fact that MAYBE the driver was a lot more capable at using his car that you are with yours ??

Imprezas may be good handling but they aint the be all and end all of it


Old 01 January 2002, 03:31 PM
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Has anybody been up against any Porsches ? and I don't mean literally you perves!
Which ones and what happened.
Old 01 January 2002, 03:35 PM
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Girls, girls...

It's all down to personal preference at the end of the day and relating to performance - its driver skill, knowledge of roads, knowledge of car and handling etc, etc, etc.......that tips the balance......

Before you know it this will turn into another scoob VS this and that and so on!

Behave (We all know scoobs rule or we wouldn't be here )

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Old 01 January 2002, 03:39 PM
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I have against a 911 variant - can't remember which one. On single stretch runway he was right behind me up to about 145mph and as the runway strip widened to two carriages this thing sailed past me rather easily.

Very nice motor.

Old 01 January 2002, 03:40 PM
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I have against a 911 variant - can't remember which one. On single stretch runway he was right behind me up to about 145mph and as the runway strip widened to two carriages this thing sailed past me rather easily.

Very nice motor.

Old 01 January 2002, 04:40 PM
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Behave (We all know scoobs rule or we wouldn't be here )
I cant stand Imprezas....I am just here to keep you on your toes (jus kidding)



Old 01 January 2002, 11:47 PM
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I dont think that the quote

Of course it is..... there is no way it could keep up with you otherwise.... nothing to do with the fact that MAYBE the driver was a lot more capable at using his car that you are with yours ??

Is true, how much skill and capability does it take on a straight to put your foot down and accelerate??

Fair enough on corners or B roads but not in a straight line.
Old 01 January 2002, 11:57 PM
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If the new M3 costs £42k then i think it deserves to get past you! ....imagine if you spent £20k+ tuning your car(assuming your car cost £22k new), i dont the M3 would be even in your mirrors!

I`d also try racing one in the wet, maybe around a few bends, see how come out tops then

Rich.
Old 02 January 2002, 12:16 AM
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Well think of the loonies who have spent £40k on the new beatle RS I think its called. Great £40k to drive around in a bowler hat on wheels, now that is stupidity.
Old 02 January 2002, 09:14 AM
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M3's are beasts, simple as that... Autocar's 'Worlds fastest cars' special has a good M3 vs Evo 7 test...

The Evo beats it upto 60 but don't forget the M3 is massively powerful and has *really* long legs, they also don't have a 4WD drive-train to drag around, personally I would love one and I don't think they are over-rated.

Comments like 'it's worth the money for the engine alone' are there for a reason... don't be surprised if one beats you!

M
Old 02 January 2002, 10:09 AM
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LOL Rob White..... mebbe you should read Bombers and my posts again


Bomber is saying he couldnt keep up with it on a straight line. He then said the BMW driver must have known the roads as he couldnt keep up on the bends either when they reached them

Couldnt it have been that the BMW driver MAYBE knew how to use his car better than Bomber (no offence Bomber but its possible). Having an Impreza doesnt automatically turn you into a great driver or be able to lose everything on the bends.

I totally agree its easy to plant a foot in a straight line... that'll be why a certain Calibra Turbo had to back off before ending up in a P1's boot on the M-Way as the P1 couldnt out-accelerate him on the straights

On a twisty road it might have been different

This is not a slagging match of this car is better than that car..... but mebbe you should read the posts properly before saying ppl are talking rubbish when they aint


Old 02 January 2002, 11:02 AM
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Id like to have a go against one in my P1, Anyone out there got a new M3 that fancies a go???
Old 02 January 2002, 11:17 AM
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Somebody shut him up!!!
Old 02 January 2002, 11:22 AM
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Dennisi,

I'm sure Arron will be up for a pop on the track, if your interested!!!

Cheers Phill C
Old 02 January 2002, 11:24 AM
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I seriously rate the new M3, I just wish I had enough money to buy one.

One of the best cars on the road I think

Paul
Old 02 January 2002, 12:38 PM
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Old 02 January 2002, 07:09 PM
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Straight line/Motorway - no chance (unless yours is modified). A P1 could not keep up with a modified Calibra Turbo so its got nowt on the M3


Twisty - depends on driver but the M3 would have to have a far, far more competent driver than the P1 would.


Old 02 January 2002, 07:17 PM
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A P1 could not keep up with a modified Calibra Turbo so its got nowt on the M3
Old 02 January 2002, 07:20 PM
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Davey.... this has been done and proved, the Calibra in question is running 304BHP.

The P1 might have been standard so mebbe you want to rethink that one ??

Old 02 January 2002, 07:23 PM
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Those new M3 s look pretty good too, a big improvement on the old model. they would be quicker than any current scooby for sure I'm afraid, the figures just cannot add up to an impreza beating it, even a P1/STI etc.
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What.............me !!!!

Concorde is fast in a straight line !!

Old 02 January 2002, 09:08 PM
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My workmate has just sold his new style M3 and let me have a bash before he let it go. I have to say that it is one hell of a motor car. It would certainly blow my RB5 into the weeds, but for 42 grand I would hope so!! I am not sure I could ever bring myself to buy one, but I would be tempted if I was in that market.
Cant say I was too keen on traction control kicking in though, but maybe I shouldn't have been playing with it quite so hard!


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