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Old 08 November 2006, 02:14 PM
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Hey guys, long time member, first time poster here

Should be buying my first Scooby tommorow in the auctions if all goes well!

Had a quick question though, have been advised to get the STi as thats the decent one, but the car broker emailed me a regular WRX to look at too. Apart from the obvious visual differences, what are the differences between a 5 speed WRX and a 6 speed STi??

The cars I'm looking at are below:







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Old 08 November 2006, 02:30 PM
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STI has :- 6 pot calipers brakes, better interior, DCCD, better suspension. more powerful, looks better and few better options!

IMHO i had a JDM classic for years and now have a MY05 WRX PPP UK - you dont have to worry about fuel, servicing, parts etc which is a major plus over the JDM cars.

Hope this helps

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Old 08 November 2006, 02:30 PM
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Always get an STi if you can afford it.

You get lots more kit, it's quicker, handles better, etc.

If you geta WRX, you'll always be looking at an STI with envy.
Old 08 November 2006, 02:36 PM
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plus,s for Sti.... quicker..looks better..better interior..wider tyres/wheels. ...gold wheels standard..big spoiler as standard..6 speed box...RAC trackstar
against.....less mpg...hard ride..higher insurance.
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Originally Posted by MickeyWRX
STI has :- 6 pot calipers brakes, better interior, DCCD, better suspension. more powerful, looks better and few better options!

IMHO i had a JDM classic for years and now have a MY05 WRX PPP UK - you dont have to worry about fuel, servicing, parts etc which is a major plus over the JDM cars.

Hope this helps

Mickey
Thanks mate, sorry, few newbie questions LOL whats DCCD and JDM?

Also thanks to the other reply's looks like I was well informed to get the STi!

Oh also, sorry, just noticed, one of the STi's is a Type C. Is this a better or bad thing?

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Old 08 November 2006, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by WTD
Thanks mate, sorry, few newbie questions LOL whats DCCD and JDM?

Also thanks to the other reply's looks like I was well informed to get the STi!

Oh also, sorry, just noticed, one of the STi's is a Type C. Is this a better or bad thing?
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Not heard of a Type C, it is more likely a Spec C. Yes, it is better still.
Old 08 November 2006, 03:49 PM
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Is that Flat Eric in those cars?
Old 08 November 2006, 04:05 PM
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gotta go for the spec c if you have the choice
Old 08 November 2006, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by davedipster
Is that Flat Eric in those cars?
Old 08 November 2006, 05:05 PM
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What auction are you going to ??
Old 08 November 2006, 05:25 PM
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WTD - Are you really in Tokyo mate ?!!

Gaz - How does DCCD work, does it improve grip and handling ?
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it enables more driver control over how the car handles, some people prefer cars to oversteer as opposed to understeer or vice versa and you can fine tune it with the diff control
Old 08 November 2006, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Tilly
it enables more driver control over how the car handles, some people prefer cars to oversteer as opposed to understeer or vice versa and you can fine tune it with the diff control
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
WTD - Are you really in Tokyo mate ?!!

Gaz - How does DCCD work, does it improve grip and handling ?

Looking at the cars the number plates are Jap
Old 08 November 2006, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Tilly
How does DCCD work, does it improve grip and handling ?

it enables more driver control over how the car handles, some people prefer cars to oversteer as opposed to understeer or vice versa and you can fine tune it with the diff control
or just leave it in AUTO and not die careering backwards into a ditch
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iam on my 2nd Impreza at the mo, had a MY95 WRX JDM - was fast as f**k and now i have MY05 WRX PPP which is just as fast, both STi and WRX are amazing cars so alot of the time it comes down to your budjet!
Old 08 November 2006, 07:20 PM
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Cool website.

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Old 08 November 2006, 07:36 PM
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Sorry to be a pain, but I disagree on a few points you have made:

Originally Posted by MickeyWRX
STI has :- 6 pot calipers brakes
So has my WRX and has done from new.

Originally Posted by MickeyWRX
better interior
Rubbish. My interior is exactly the same as the STI version I was looking to buy.

Originally Posted by MickeyWRX
DCCD
This I agree with, but depends if you really need it and what you're using the car for. (ie. Racing / Track days?)

Originally Posted by MickeyWRX
better suspension
Also correct, but this can also be uprated on a WRX too at a later date if really needed. Depends what you want to do with the car.

Originally Posted by MickeyWRX
more powerful
Based on what???? There are WRX's out there that are more powerfull than STI's too. It really depends on what mods have been installed. I do agree that however if you really want to upgrade to something 300+ though it's then better to get an STI (cheaper for the upgrade path). Also is power really everything? Think about weight too. The WRX is quite a bit lighter than an STI due to the weight of the 6 speed gearbox in the STI. My friend also has a STI which has the same power as my WRX. Guess what? I beat him every time due to the power to weight ratio. Around a track however I think he would win due to the better setup. So again, what is the car to be used for?


Originally Posted by MickeyWRX
looks better
In your opinion...... I personally perfer the lower profile of the WRX. Although, I'm now saving up for a litchfield type 25.

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Old 08 November 2006, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
WTD - Are you really in Tokyo mate ?!!
Yeah mate, been here just over a year now after emigrating from the UK!
Old 08 November 2006, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by WTD
Yeah mate, been here just over a year now after emigrating from the UK!
Cool, did the Tokyo thing for a couple of weeks earlier this year. Very different and rather fun ! Cute girls !
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Originally Posted by scooter(WRX03 PPP)
Sorry to be a pain, but I disagree on a few points you have made:



So has my WRX and has done from new.



Rubbish. My interior is exactly the same as the STI version I was looking to buy.



This I agree with, but depends if you really need it and what you're using the car for. (ie. Racing / Track days?)



Also correct, but this can also be uprated on a WRX too at a later date if really needed. Depends what you want to do with the car.



Based on what???? There are WRX's out there that are more powerfull than STI's too. It really depends on what mods have been installed. I do agree that however if you really want to upgrade to something 300+ though it's then better to get an STI (cheaper for the upgrade path). Also is power really everything? Think about weight too. The WRX is quite a bit lighter than an STI due to the weight of the 6 speed gearbox in the STI. My friend also has a STI which has the same power as my WRX. Guess what? I beat him every time due to the power to weight ratio. Around a track however I think he would win due to the better setup. So again, what is the car to be used for?




In your opinion...... I personally perfer the lower profile of the WRX. Although, I'm now saving up for a litchfield type 25.
Are you sure you dont have an STi with a 5 speed box??

Parked my MY05 STi next to a mates MY06 this morning and was thinking i was glad that i have the STi interior... because it is different (better colours / STi features).

Power wise.. as standard cars (which im sure the original poster is talking about) the STi is more powerful and can handle more power without modification.

DCCD also makes a difference on the roads, especially with it getting colder and damper (and i am talking within the speed limits).

And if your telling me that a standard WRX is quicker than a standard STi because its got 1 less cog then you should really write to Subaru because they made some serious errors.
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The only thing that a WRX has that I wanted on my STi is an EGT sensor ... why they dont put one on the STI I dont know

Differences are obvious when driving the two side by side. Plus there are numerous differences beneath the skin.

The DCCD is a great piece of kit and makes a real improvement on the road at normal speeds along with wider wheels, better brakes, stiffer suspension components etc etc. You have to mod a WRX a bit to get to STi performance levels but handling and braking are also a huge part of the equation and to modify those to get better starts taking a lot of money.

It all depends on the use of the car though - some people will be very happy with a WRX or even fit a PPP to it to get the power/driveability but it wont ever be an STi and will lose out to superior handling/braking/tyres/differentials & head turning factor.
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Originally Posted by dynamix
It all depends on the use of the car though - some people will be very happy with a WRX or even fit a PPP to it to get the power/driveability but it wont ever be an STi and will lose out to superior handling/braking/tyres/differentials & head turning factor.
You can mod a WRX up to STi level for a similar cost to the price difference between the two cars (other than the 6 spd box).

If you're going to mod both, I think the main difference is you have a head start with the STi and you can go further due to stronger internals and gearbox.
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Originally Posted by Tilly
it enables more driver control over how the car handles, some people prefer cars to oversteer as opposed to understeer or vice versa and you can fine tune it with the diff control
Andy, as he says...
Old 09 November 2006, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by GazTheHat
Andy, as he says...
"oversteer" please !
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
"oversteer" please !
I don't have it on mine, but it would probably stay in Auto, if the car handles as it does now, can't fault it one bit. But then the mods helped that along.

Another gadget that wouldn't be used?!
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