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Old 21 August 2006, 11:29 AM
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Default Shell V-Power.

A word of caution.
Direct from Shell, they have told me that not all outlets are supplied with the "new" fuel and they will not disclose the octane etc until all outlets are supplied.
Old 21 August 2006, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by harvey
A word of caution.
Direct from Shell, they have told me that not all outlets are supplied with the "new" fuel and they will not disclose the octane etc until all outlets are supplied.
Thanks for the heads up Harvey!

Sensible on the part of Shell, it kinda implies that the RON is different doesn't it!

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Old 21 August 2006, 12:51 PM
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seems like a silly way to be going on IMO


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Old 21 August 2006, 12:51 PM
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From a very good source V power is 99 RON the same as Tescos

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Old 21 August 2006, 01:21 PM
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is it only available down south at the moment???



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Old 21 August 2006, 01:41 PM
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I want 100+ ron !!!!!!!
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i got told by the bloke who runs my local shell station today that it's gonna be the same RON rating as the stuff they sell on the continent 100 RON ???

Oh and it's gonne be MORE expensive than Optiamx!!
Old 21 August 2006, 02:24 PM
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I am currently in leipzig, drove over yesterday and got chance to use 2 tanks of the 100 ron stuff on the autobahn in my RS6. All I can say is its very impressive, car feels more responsive on part throttle and pulls noticeably more 'cleanly' under WOT. Difficult to discern actual performance benfit but the general 'feel' described above was noticeable both to me and to my passenger.
Old 21 August 2006, 02:37 PM
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i can smell the potenecy already
Old 21 August 2006, 02:40 PM
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V-power or V-max?

The V-max as is germany is 100ron. The V-power as in holland is more expensive 95ron, in the pump next to normal 95ron.

Strange but true, you don't want that stuff.
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Originally Posted by gaz-cole
i can smell the potenecy already
Sorry, I'll stop eating those beans for lunch!!

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Originally Posted by RB5_245
V-power or V-max?

The V-max as is germany is 100ron. The V-power as in holland is more expensive 95ron, in the pump next to normal 95ron.

Strange but true, you don't want that stuff.
er that will be V-Power in Germany and not V-Max and yes it is 100RON

even our BP Ultimate is 100RON
Old 21 August 2006, 03:50 PM
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so it's v-power in germany and v-max in holland... are you sure? I thought it was the other way round, don't use shell stations in holland because of it..

As long as we get the good stuff that's all that counts
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Originally Posted by RB5_245
so it's v-power in germany and v-max in holland... are you sure? I thought it was the other way round, don't use shell stations in holland because of it..

As long as we get the good stuff that's all that counts
I should be sure as I live in Germany and use the stuff fairly regularly
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Yup, I live in holland and am not collecting any plus points at all at the moment

Maybe they're both called the same and I just made V-max up in my head
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Am I the only person who sees this as shell using this v power bollocks to hike up the price to bp ultimate levels? optimax, although dearer than sul, has never been that much dearer, once this v power has been installed in all forecourts, what's to stop them putting the price up a lot!
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Originally Posted by cw42
Am I the only person who sees this as shell using this v power bollocks to hike up the price to bp ultimate levels? optimax, although dearer than sul, has never been that much dearer, once this v power has been installed in all forecourts, what's to stop them putting the price up a lot!

No your not the only one - i cant see them doing all this hype without any fianancial gain for themselves!!!!
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Originally Posted by cw42
Am I the only person who sees this as shell using this v power bollocks to hike up the price to bp ultimate levels? optimax, although dearer than sul, has never been that much dearer, once this v power has been installed in all forecourts, what's to stop them putting the price up a lot!
Just what i said to the bloke who owns my local shell garage, all he said was it would be more expensive, when i asked how much, all i was met with was a knowing smile. Optimax at £104.9 is taking the p1ss let alone what ever V Max is gonne be, it's not like your even going to have a choice, it's bye bye Optimax and hello V Max. The only winner here is goning to be Tesco and theyre 99 RON
Old 21 August 2006, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cw42
what's to stop them putting the price up a lot!

People not buying it?


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Old 21 August 2006, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
No your not the only one - i cant see them doing all this hype without any fianancial gain for themselves!!!!
they are not doing any hype, its all the geeks who are hypeing it up for them
Old 21 August 2006, 05:30 PM
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Like I said in the previous thread about V-wotsit, it would be stupid of Shell to hike the price as there are plenty of alternative sul's about which are perfectly suitable for the vast majority of performance cars in the UK which do not need the extra octane. If the price goes up, I'll start using more Tesco's!
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Old 21 August 2006, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnD
Like I said in the previous thread about V-wotsit, it would be stupid of Shell to hike the price as there are plenty of alternative sul's about which are perfectly suitable for the vast majority of performance cars in the UK which do not need the extra octane. If the price goes up, I'll start using more Tesco's!
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Agreed - Price up = my scoob not visiting their forecort.
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i was told by my local shell station that as of august the 23rd the optimax is being withdrawn and replced with shell v maz, and it will be 100 ron straight from the pump and cost about 6p a litre more
Old 21 August 2006, 08:44 PM
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There's a few shell stations where I live (south coast).. One has 'normal' price optimax and one has 'higher' price optimax (usually the same price)... Have filled up at both over the last week and whatever RON the new stuff is it p**sses all over the old optimax
Old 21 August 2006, 09:00 PM
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ive been told its V FORCE????????? 102 to 103????????
Old 21 August 2006, 09:16 PM
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well,if it aint over 99 why buy it, as tescos has been doing this for yonks so no big deal from shell then, ol dnews isnt it, 99 ron !??!?!

i thought optimax was 100 ron anyway, or am i misled ????
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Think I took at tank of the new stuff onboard filling up at my local Shell station a couple of days ago. Car is pulling stronger and the difference over 5.5k is noticeable. It feels a bit like when I put booster in with a tank of the *normal* Optimax (98.6RON).

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remember not all just about the RON rating... the power the fuel delivers is down to many other factors.

Higher RON means it can detonate later safer, hence more air / fuel and more power... but calorific value etc all has a bearing. I am pretty sure the formula of the new fuel is improved beyond just simply having a higher RON.

Else who exactly are they going to market this stuff at - that tiny percentage who own jap performance cars and are willing to get them remapped (yet again ).
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cw42 its definately not bollocks, and in Swindon was 99.9 two days ago.

Its defo got a better "burn" to it.

Harvey has a good point there, Shell can't announce untill all stations are primed as if they did and someone checked it and the station concerned hadn't been switched they could take it to Trading Standards, so untill all is ready it will remain "Optimax".

cheers

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Originally Posted by gaz c
ive been told its V FORCE????????? 102 to 103????????
I've just heard from a friend who works for Shell marketing that it's definitely not 102RON. She couldn't say exactly what the RON will be (confidentiality clauses and all that) but she didn't refute the suggestion that it's 100RON

That would make sense as it would fit with what's sold on the continent


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