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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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From a very good source V power is 99 RON the same as Tescos

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I posted this at lunch time




why isn't anyone reading it
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Wonder Wagon
I posted this at lunch time




why isn't anyone reading it
No-one likes reading, it's uncool.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 11:46 PM
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Rawle
cw42 its definately not bollocks, and in Swindon was 99.9 two days ago.

Its defo got a better "burn" to it.

Harvey has a good point there, Shell can't announce untill all stations are primed as if they did and someone checked it and the station concerned hadn't been switched they could take it to Trading Standards, so untill all is ready it will remain "Optimax".

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Bob, I'm not saying that the ron is wrong, all I'm saying is that the hype is just another way of getting more money out of us for a product that we don't particulaly want. I'm more than happy with optimax as it is, quite readily available, easy to substitute if I can't find any (tesco/bp) but v-power is not so easy to subsitute. If I run out of that on a welsh moor top, I'll be putting booster in on top of tesco/bp surely!
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Wonder Wagon
I posted this at lunch time




why isn't anyone reading it
Wonder,

I am sure it's not personal however there have been a number of people on here quoting very good sources saying things like - it's all hype and no different to Optimax; it's only a name change because some optician uses eye fluid called Optimax; it's 102 RON; the launch date is x; all Shell stations have it; not all Shell stations have it.

It's the wonder of Scoobynet - people read the bit that supports their view of the world and ignore everyone else.

From putting what I believe to be the new Shell into my car, it runs far better then Tesco 99. Their again, subjectively (and objectively according to Evo magazine) Scoobies run better on plain Optimax than Tesco 99 as well. Certainly that is my experience and I also do not see a price differential any more.


We will all know the truth in a few days.

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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Rannoch
.....I also do not see a price differential any more.....
Ive seen a noticable price difference recently. Tesco have had the audacity to charge more for their 99RON fuel than Shell (Shalesmoor) have for Optimax; the thieving dogs!


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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by GC8
Ive seen a noticable price difference recently. Tesco have had the audacity to charge more for their 99RON fuel than Shell (Shalesmoor) have for Optimax; the thieving dogs!


Simon
Hmm,must be different areas, in gloucester,shell has always been,until recently, 1.02 litre, tesco, 1.01. now shell, seem to lower their price every day, is 92 for regular, 96 for optimax, tesco is also 96 litre

everyday shell lowers their regualr price, was 95p on friday !
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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The performance version in Europe is rated at 100ron so that will be what the UK will receive as well. There would be little point in wasting money developing a completely new fuel for the UK market that "out performs" the current Optimax when such a fuel is already in place, tried and tested in Europe for several years.

No doubt as mentioned it'll be superior in it's composition of ingredients, not just it's ron value as the performance car market is definately greater in numbers now, then it's ever been.

As also mentioned it's going to be in place at many station already as there's not way it would be logistically possible to fill each station the night before. Also what if a particular station's tanks aren't empty of regular Optimax. They've probably been flushing through for a good month now with the "new" stuff.

Pricing wise I an't see it being more than a penny or 2 above current Optimax as Shell won't want to price themselves out. Regardless of the advantages and being superior to Tesco99, the general public are pretty stupid and will only look at the price on the forecourt, not at the quality of fuel thats on offer.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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If they put the price up then it will be a bad move because tesco's 99 (which i assume its trying to compete with) is very reasonably priced at well under a quid now. 96.9 at mine
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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I'm surprised know one has mentioned BP Ultimate 102 thats on sell in some parts of the UK http://www.bp.com/genericsection.do?...tentId=7017179
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by cw42
Bob, I'm not saying that the ron is wrong, all I'm saying is that the hype is just another way of getting more money out of us for a product that we don't particulaly want.
Originally Posted by cw42
we don`t
who is this "we" ???

there must be thousands upon thousands of people still running a jdm map for starters, you might not want it, PLENTY of people want 100 ron fuel

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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by B0DSKI
i got told by the bloke who runs my local shell station today that it's gonna be the same RON rating as the stuff they sell on the continent 100 RON ???
V-Power in Belgium is 98RON, same as Optimax.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Wonder Wagon
I'm surprised know one has mentioned BP Ultimate 102 thats on sell in some parts of the UK http://www.bp.com/genericsection.do?...tentId=7017179
The reason I believe no-one is mentioning the BP stuff, is the apparent cost (I've not seen it but have heard the rumout that it is in excess of £2 per litre). I think one of the reasons that BP are marketing this is made obvious on the left hand link of the page (with the pic of the Ford Focus). From next year, the RAC MSA are taking a far harder stance on what fuels are going in to motorsport vehicles. At present. most GpA cars and WR cars on the national rally scene are using fuels like Carless or Elf Turbo or equivalents at around £3.50 - £4.00 per litre. These fuels will be strictly banned next year, and only pump fuels to certain standards will be acceptable.
The GpA Impreza I that spannered on during the recent Jim Clark rally was expecting to use 400-500 litres over the space of 3 days, so I'm guessing that this is an area that BP are looking to capitalise on by supplying high spec pump fuel to the motorsport community.
Not necessarily true, but just my take on the BP stuff.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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They are expanding the BP 102-RON fuel.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=14843

Too dear for my pockets
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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Shame it's only sold on sites they own I'd put a tankful or two in
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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This was posted up today on another forum I use by a member who works for Shell.

The information packs have now arrived and it says,

V-Power is designed to provide higher levels of performance and responsiveness.
V-Power is 99 RON
Uses Friction Modification Technology - the same used by Ferrari F1
Increased levels of detergents for even cleaner engines.

It is not a simply name change, V-Power has been developed to provide higher levels of performance and enhancements in responsiveness to give drivers a better driving experience. Shell works closely with Ferrari F1 to create better fuels for the road.

Over the next few weeks, V-Power key-rings will be delivered to site to give to every customer buying V-Power.

Sites should received a promo pack with posters etc, for site staff to install. Contractors will visit sites over the next 4 weeks to install bigger adverts like banners and pole sign inserts.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by craigdmcd
These fuels will be strictly banned next year, and only pump fuels to certain standards will be acceptable.
This could be an excuse for higher octane fuels to suddenly appear at the pumps.
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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If it really is only 99ron IMHO they have wasted their time and money!, Not when tescos 99 is an excellent fuel (in my car) and around here it is still much cheaper than Shells optimax/v whatever....... I think it would be a big mistake for them to offer a new fuel which is less than 100ron, especially when it's gonna cost more money!
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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i popped in for a fill up today to be told they were out of optimax, they were waiting for the v-power gear to turn up..
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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SirFozzalot
V-Power in Belgium is 98RON, same as Optimax.

correct matey

Filled up on the e40 last thursday with the v-power stuff,must say my sti ran really smooth on the stuff,no popping or banging from the exhaust at all

it was 1.3 euro's per litre so about 90 pence ?
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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Popped in to fill up last night, and had a bit of a chat with the lass behind the counter. She said the banners etc are going out on the forecourts today (23/8)
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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Just seen the new posters for the Shell V-Power at my local garage.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h5...er69/shell.jpg
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jealer69
Just seen the new posters for the Shell V-Power at my local garage.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h5...er69/shell.jpg
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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Thats brilliant! LOL
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jealer69
Just seen the new posters for the Shell V-Power at my local garage.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h5...er69/shell.jpg

Will I get one of the new keyrings with that logo on it?
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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I really can't understand why they are only selling 99ron V-Power in the UK when they already make V-Power 100ron for Germany, surely they would have to remake the product in existance to remove 1 ron which to me seems pointless.

Anyway I still use V-Power over here and at least when I come to the UK I will be able to get a reasonable fuel now.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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" The Roll Out starts today but not in all areas. It is 99 Ron and you will know which stations have it when they display the V-Power posters. It is not in the North East of England as yet and I will let you know. "
From my man at Shell.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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And the price?
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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Just checked the Shell station at the bottom of the road - and nothing! Not a sign of the new stuff at all!
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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Got to fill up soon so will check out both garages in my area.
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