corradoboy

Watched the Focus ST and Astra VXR lapping Ty Croes last night and they got 55-56s. It was drier with just visible damp patches rather than the rain last week, and of course, Tiff was driving instead of that silly squealing handbrake yanking stumpy munter. I seem to recall the 2 Scooby's lapping in 59's. If my recollections are correct then does it mean the 2 hatches are pretty quick, the Scoobs were slow, or the driver makes a huge difference. I think it's probably primarily the driver, and then the conditions, although the Ford and Vauxhaul look very competent machines. On Top Gear the Focus got a 1:34.9 to the STi's 1:30.1, so I think the answer's there.

KiwiGTI

Yep, 59, but the track was very wet, whereas it was 90% dry for the ST and VXR.

corradoboy

Stands to reason then. Blyton Park is about the same length as Ty Croes and I know wet adds 4s there.

The Trooper 1815

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Want One Need Please!!!!
http://www.litchfieldimports.co.uk/stocklist.asp

4 on the stock list.

corradoboy

Just found the link...You Tube

Impreza STi - 59.4
Forester STi - 1:00.4

KiwiGTI

Nice cars but you could still see the front wheel drive traits, torque steer and understeer, were very much amplified compared to the Scoobs

leerichosti

does anyone believe that driving with one arm would make you 2tenths of a second slower round that track like needle said
doesnt seem right to me

scoobydooooo

i didn't see the point in the one armed laps , gimmick springs to mind !!

corradoboy

What you expect from 5th Gear TBH Somehow TG manage to be silly and yet make it funny and entertaining, 5G always fall flat on their faces whenever they try anything beyond factual.

Neanderthal

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With 2 hands on the wheel he probably could have ragged the VXR harder and thus beat his 'favourite of the 2' ST by much more....

GazTheHat

I think that's true. I don't mind 5th Gear, but TG has an added element of humour. The wifey even laughs along and enjoys watching TG. So something has changed...

leerichosti

5th gear is just an oppotunity for tiff needles to strech his already enormous ego

jasonius

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So do they put these figures up on their new fangled, computerised.. 'Power Lap board'..?

If so, the one arm thing really is a **** take. That and the fact that VBH (the one that either sounds like she smokes 100 **** a day and reminds me of Marge Simpson's sister Velma or squeals like she just sat on something too big..!) drives some of the laps..!

At least TG try to claim fairness with the Stig(s).

Finally, how can a commercial channel claim to give an unbiased view point, especially given that the winning car is given away and quite likely 'donated' to them by the manufacturer..?