HOW CAN ROLLING ROAD FIGURES CHANGE SO MUCH>??????????
20 December 2005, 03:54 PM
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HOW CAN ROLLING ROAD FIGURES CHANGE SO MUCH>??????????
I hope some one can help.I went too power engineering in the summer
too see what power my 99uk scooby would make, it made 274bhp and 273LBS/FT torque.
Happy with that, only thing was next time i went back i only made 245bhp and 248lbs/ft torque.
NOT happy at all, so the guy,s at power engineering restarted the ecu and it made 265bhp and 284lbs/torque.
Help what,s going on........ 1st run bhp max power was at 5830rpm.
2nd run bhp max power was at 5862rpm
3rd run bhp max power was at 5610rpm
please can some one explain........
20 December 2005, 05:02 PM
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That's RR's for you I'm afraid..!
Too many variables (sp?) with temps, tyre pressures and more importantly operators etc...!
Hate to say that PE are amongst to more generous BTW..
Too many variables (sp?) with temps, tyre pressures and more importantly operators etc...!
Hate to say that PE are amongst to more generous BTW..
20 December 2005, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonius
That's RR's for you I'm afraid..!
Too many variables (sp?) with temps, tyre pressures and more importantly operators etc...!
Hate to say that PE are amongst to more generous BTW..
Too many variables (sp?) with temps, tyre pressures and more importantly operators etc...!
Hate to say that PE are amongst to more generous BTW..
20 December 2005, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by wrc350bhp
thats if silverstone is south
Not really south of the country
but i've been there myself and would reccomend the guys there to anybody
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20 December 2005, 07:42 PM
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Because, my friend .......... it's all made up!!
It's all Mickey Mouse and only for the easily parted with their dosh!!
Do yourself a favour and treat Rolling Road 'shootouts' with caution ... they are only for the Kiddies and Chavs
Pete
It's all Mickey Mouse and only for the easily parted with their dosh!!
Do yourself a favour and treat Rolling Road 'shootouts' with caution ... they are only for the Kiddies and Chavs
Pete
20 December 2005, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Because, my friend .......... it's all made up!!
It's all Mickey Mouse and only for the easily parted with their dosh!!
Do yourself a favour and treat Rolling Road 'shootouts' with caution ... they are only for the Kiddies and Chavs
Pete
It's all Mickey Mouse and only for the easily parted with their dosh!!
Do yourself a favour and treat Rolling Road 'shootouts' with caution ... they are only for the Kiddies and Chavs
Pete
This my friend is bollox
Granted they are not the most scientific and accurate way to test your cars output but they still give you the general idea if your motor's a slug or not !
20 December 2005, 09:09 PM
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This my friend is bollox Granted they are not the most scientific and accurate way to test your cars output but they still give you the general idea if your motor's a slug or not !
Granted they are not the most scientific and accurate way to test your cars output but they still give you the general idea if your motor's a slug or not !
Dear god .... you kiddies are easily taken to the cleaners!!
Pete
20 December 2005, 09:27 PM
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Engine Mapping???
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Biggest scam going that!!
You paid for Subaru to map your ECU - after they have spent £Millions on research and do the best job possible ............. then what do you do??
MUGS!!!
Only pay £700 for some Geek to do it all again!!
Pete
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Biggest scam going that!!
You paid for Subaru to map your ECU - after they have spent £Millions on research and do the best job possible ............. then what do you do??
MUGS!!!
Only pay £700 for some Geek to do it all again!!
Pete
20 December 2005, 09:29 PM
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i take it your pension doesnt stretch that far and i reackon deep down you'd love a propper fast scoob 
20 December 2005, 09:34 PM
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Pete,
Here we go ago.... more of your misguided spew!
Would you like to give me a technical breakdown of WHY Subaru (or any car manufacturer for that matter) map the way they do...... Oh, thats before I blow you in to the weeds!
Perhaps if you tell the WHOLE story (do you even know it!?) you wouldnt try and misguide others by stating stuff TOTALLY out of context.
Regards,
Shaun.
Here we go ago.... more of your misguided spew!
Would you like to give me a technical breakdown of WHY Subaru (or any car manufacturer for that matter) map the way they do...... Oh, thats before I blow you in to the weeds!
Perhaps if you tell the WHOLE story (do you even know it!?) you wouldnt try and misguide others by stating stuff TOTALLY out of context.
Regards,
Shaun.
20 December 2005, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by sparky d
i take it your pension doesnt stretch that far and i reackon deep down you'd love a propper fast scoob
A proper (thats with ONE 'p' you will notice!) scooby is as Subaru supplied me, thanks all the same!
Pete
20 December 2005, 09:37 PM
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Bless ya, Pete.
You don't like change, do you?
Anyway back on track... The only way to accurately measure Horsepower is with your motor on a bench, which isn't that convenient for most of us. I'd expect the readings to be more consistent than the ones you've posted though. How are you supposed to set up an engine with different data on every run?
You don't like change, do you?
Anyway back on track... The only way to accurately measure Horsepower is with your motor on a bench, which isn't that convenient for most of us. I'd expect the readings to be more consistent than the ones you've posted though. How are you supposed to set up an engine with different data on every run?
20 December 2005, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Pete,
Here we go ago.... more of your misguided spew!
Would you like to give me a technical breakdown of WHY Subaru (or any car manufacturer for that matter) map the way they do...... Oh, thats before I blow you in to the weeds!
Perhaps if you tell the WHOLE story (do you even know it!?) you wouldnt try and misguide others by stating stuff TOTALLY out of context.
Regards,
Shaun.
Here we go ago.... more of your misguided spew!
Would you like to give me a technical breakdown of WHY Subaru (or any car manufacturer for that matter) map the way they do...... Oh, thats before I blow you in to the weeds!
Perhaps if you tell the WHOLE story (do you even know it!?) you wouldnt try and misguide others by stating stuff TOTALLY out of context.
Regards,
Shaun.
1. Deliver maximum power subject to the following:-
a. Decent Fuel Consumption
b. Relaible Mechanics
c. Legal Emmissions
d. Long Life
e. Driveability
Thats it ......... to foook about with it compromises any, or all, of the above!
And is an utter waste of money ............ I have NO vested interest in my opinion - before we hear your opinion 'to blow me into the weeds'
maybe you could disclose any pecuniary interests you have in RR and Re-Maps!!Pete
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20 December 2005, 09:45 PM
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Pete,
You left some HUGE factor's out of that.... and that is fuel grade, country, atmospherics and above all else THE DRIVER!
You really think for a minute that none of these conditions once actually known (i.e. the guy/girl that actually owns a car and knows what they are and how they drive, what fuel they will use, what country etc etc) that even Subaru couldnt make that car better?...... but according to your brash statement, that would be impossible as you already get the best from the OM.
Yes... 2+2 really does make 4!
Put it this way.... I can get all the benefits you mention, with extra power on top! Easy peasy, lemon squeezy!.
Regards,
Shaun.
You left some HUGE factor's out of that.... and that is fuel grade, country, atmospherics and above all else THE DRIVER!
You really think for a minute that none of these conditions once actually known (i.e. the guy/girl that actually owns a car and knows what they are and how they drive, what fuel they will use, what country etc etc) that even Subaru couldnt make that car better?...... but according to your brash statement, that would be impossible as you already get the best from the OM.
Yes... 2+2 really does make 4!
Put it this way.... I can get all the benefits you mention, with extra power on top! Easy peasy, lemon squeezy!.
Regards,
Shaun.
20 December 2005, 09:54 PM
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I still think that Subaru delivers the best all round package of longevity (15 years+ and 150,000miles of trouble free motoring)
Decent mpg figures (I return 35mpg easily)
Reliablility (mile upon mile of solid performance)
Pissing about with the package compromises reliability (engines blown apart) economy (10mpg) .....................
Buy the car you WANT, not one you have to change!
Pete
Decent mpg figures (I return 35mpg easily)
Reliablility (mile upon mile of solid performance)
Pissing about with the package compromises reliability (engines blown apart) economy (10mpg) .....................
Buy the car you WANT, not one you have to change!
Pete
20 December 2005, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I still think that Subaru delivers the best all round package of longevity (15 years+ and 150,000miles of trouble free motoring)
Decent mpg figures (I return 35mpg easily)
Reliablility (mile upon mile of solid performance)
Pissing about with the package compromises reliability (engines blown apart) economy (10mpg) .....................
Buy the car you WANT, not one you have to change!
Pete
Decent mpg figures (I return 35mpg easily)
Reliablility (mile upon mile of solid performance)
Pissing about with the package compromises reliability (engines blown apart) economy (10mpg) .....................
Buy the car you WANT, not one you have to change!
Pete
WOW thats a fair comment from you pete but each to their own i say and if some of us want to play about with a few additional extras then why should it bother you so much that you have to get all uptight and have a pop at anyone with their own preferances
20 December 2005, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I still think that Subaru delivers the best all round package of longevity (15 years+ and 150,000miles of trouble free motoring)
Decent mpg figures (I return 35mpg easily)
Reliablility (mile upon mile of solid performance)
Pissing about with the package compromises reliability (engines blown apart) economy (10mpg) .....................
Buy the car you WANT, not one you have to change!
Pete
Decent mpg figures (I return 35mpg easily)
Reliablility (mile upon mile of solid performance)
Pissing about with the package compromises reliability (engines blown apart) economy (10mpg) .....................
Buy the car you WANT, not one you have to change!
Pete
you may as well drive an old people's car.....you cash boasting Prat!
you utter w@ker!
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20 December 2005, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I still think that Subaru delivers the best all round package of longevity (15 years+ and 150,000miles of trouble free motoring)
Decent mpg figures (I return 35mpg easily)
Reliablility (mile upon mile of solid performance)
Pissing about with the package compromises reliability (engines blown apart) economy (10mpg) .....................
Buy the car you WANT, not one you have to change!
Pete
Decent mpg figures (I return 35mpg easily)
Reliablility (mile upon mile of solid performance)
Pissing about with the package compromises reliability (engines blown apart) economy (10mpg) .....................
Buy the car you WANT, not one you have to change!
Pete
You really think that "pissing" about with a package means downsides?!?!? I would lay a years wages on the fact that my Spec C is as reliable as yours! In fact my Golf TDi has been chipped by an increase of 30% more power and torque. Has not cost me any more to run and has faultlessly completed over 60k in 2yrs since the remap.
You argument is as long as it is tall, but making a brash covering statement that you have is total horse mannure in actually making a clear definition of the facts!!!
Regards,
Shaun.
20 December 2005, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by wrc350bhp
thats if silverstone is south
20 December 2005, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sparky d
WOW thats a fair comment from you pete but each to their own i say and if some of us want to play about with a few additional extras then why should it bother you so much that you have to get all uptight and have a pop at anyone with their own preferances
Would be as boring as the ***** would like it if I wasn't here telling it as it is
And no-one would get excited if all I ever did was agree to everything, everytime, with everyone ..................... I cut my own furrow, most on here are ever-so-humble, ever-so-make-believe-nice, it's vomit inducing sometimes!!
So, I act as a balance
Pete
20 December 2005, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Well, someone HAS to have a pop ..........................
Would be as boring as the ***** would like it if I wasn't here telling it as it is
And no-one would get excited if all I ever did was agree to everything, everytime, with everyone ..................... I cut my own furrow, most on here are ever-so-humble, ever-so-make-believe-nice, it's vomit inducing sometimes!!
So, I act as a balance
Pete
Would be as boring as the ***** would like it if I wasn't here telling it as it is
And no-one would get excited if all I ever did was agree to everything, everytime, with everyone ..................... I cut my own furrow, most on here are ever-so-humble, ever-so-make-believe-nice, it's vomit inducing sometimes!!
So, I act as a balance
Pete
But Pete your always out of context you blender!!!!
Regards,
Shaun.
20 December 2005, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Pete,
But Pete your always out of context you blender!!!!
Regards,
Shaun.
But Pete your always out of context you blender!!!!
Regards,
Shaun.
Was that bender or blender??
By the way, it's "you're" not "your"
Pete
20 December 2005, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
You know me well enough ...................
Was that bender or blender??
By the way, it's "you're" not "your"
Pete
Was that bender or blender??
By the way, it's "you're" not "your"
Pete
Why do old people always have a spellchecker