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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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Not had my car stolen but

£1.02 for optimax in Morecambe !!!

£0.85 for normal unleaded

The difference means I have now filled up with 95 as my manual (STi Type UK) say's it can. Anyone else ?
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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No, Always Optimax
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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Seems a big price difference up here normal 95 is 85.9 and optimax is 91.9 or 90.9 (varies).

Not got an STI im affraid but i know my wrx can take 95 though i wouldnt use it. I allwaya thought sti had to have 97/98 and the dealer told me this to.
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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Well, as its a UK car and the manual specifies the car can run on 95 then the ECU must be able to retard advance sufficently for it to run, albeit with less power.

Its just stupid here, why such a big difference? Price went up with 95 during the price hike, but these profiteering sods did not lower it when 95 fell.


Grrrrrrrrrr
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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Its costs more but they claim you get more miles per tank so it may well cancel initial cost out. They were proven right about the performance gains so i would imagine they are correct about the economy gains to. Plus its far better for your engine and more performance. No brainer for me.
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Plus its far better for your engine and more performance. No brainer for me.

Why better?

If the octane is resistance to knock, then if the ignition is retarded and knock does not occur, then no damage is being done ?

Will see if the MPG is badly affected, maybe a good point, but can't see it makeing up the difference.

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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary C
Not had my car stolen but

£1.02 for optimax in Morecambe !!!

£0.85 for normal unleaded

The difference means I have now filled up with 95 as my manual (STi Type UK) say's it can. Anyone else ?
Wait until Tesco's roll out their 99 ron near you then you can say goodbye to stupid Optimax prices like I have Thieving gits
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 01:18 PM
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Wish we had a tesco's with a petrol station
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary C
Why better?

If the octane is resistance to knock, then if the ignition is retarded and knock does not occur, then no damage is being done ?

Will see if the MPG is badly affected, maybe a good point, but can't see it makeing up the difference.

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I thought they put extra detergents and stuff in optimax as they claim also that it cleans and protects your engine. But for £1.02 id want a hand job as well.
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 02:05 PM
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I thought they put detergents in most fuels now. Its hard to find the truth under all the marketing hype.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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Well, not noticed any drop in MPG and the performance is strong (though the cold weather may help).
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Think yourself lucky, £1.09 where I am
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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Optimax has always been 6p more than standard near me.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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hello Gary c ,i live in mucky morecambe,and also brand new to scooby net ,i drive Lreg red classic turbo, fuel prices here are mad for some reason,run mine on standard un leaded ,will this harm my motor?
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by penningtoncolin
hello Gary c ,i live in mucky morecambe,and also brand new to scooby net ,i drive Lreg red classic turbo, fuel prices here are mad for some reason,run mine on standard un leaded ,will this harm my motor?

BANG!
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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BANG!
Why BANG ?

If its a UK spec with a UK 95 ron map, then it should have no problems running on 95.

As far as I know, the map runs to the knock limit by detecting it with the knock sensor and retarding the timing to suit, so if you run 98 or 95 you are running with the same margin to knock.

Only problem would be if the ECU could not retard the timing far enough to cope, ie an import designed to run on 100 RON.

Seem to remember from another thread, that Jap fuel did not used to be 100 Ron and the early import Impreza's have a map with a wider range.

Anyway, if mine goes bang, then its warrenty claim time as my manual states in black and white that it can run on 95 ron.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by adzipalmer
Think yourself lucky, £1.09 where I am


EEEEEEEEEEK !
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary C
Wish we had a tesco's with a petrol station
Tesco's in 99ron normally around £0.93p
or use 95ron anywhere BUT use PRO-BOOST to top it up to 99ron
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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Went to go to my local shell at 85.9 then noticed optimax was 99.9 filled up a tenner and asked them why the price was different "shell sets the prices on optimax not us" b011ox
Went 10 mins down road paid 90.9 at another shell garage, which is now my local..ish fill up
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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local shell garage told me optimax is always 6p more expensive than normal.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary C
Why BANG ?

If its a UK spec with a UK 95 ron map, then it should have no problems running on 95.

As far as I know, the map runs to the knock limit by detecting it with the knock sensor and retarding the timing to suit, so if you run 98 or 95 you are running with the same margin to knock.

Only problem would be if the ECU could not retard the timing far enough to cope, ie an import designed to run on 100 RON.

Seem to remember from another thread, that Jap fuel did not used to be 100 Ron and the early import Impreza's have a map with a wider range.

Anyway, if mine goes bang, then its warrenty claim time as my manual states in black and white that it can run on 95 ron.
you sound like you no your **** m8?

its an L reg correct me if im wrong but would that make it an import??

if you have got a warrenty you have nothing to worry about then?
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