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Old 15 August 2005, 10:56 AM
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Guys, i need to get an MOT for the car i had before i bought my scoob, it has been sitting on my drive for nearly a year now, it has been declared SORN, so how do i go about getting it mot'd, so i can sell it, obviously it aint gonna sell wit no mot on it

Or if anyone knows an easy way to get an MOT PM me pls
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Old 15 August 2005, 11:05 AM
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step 1
phone mot station and book it in
step 2
makesure u have insurance to drive it there
step 3
drive to MOT station


after that it doesnt matter if it passes or fails as long as the mot station say the car is safe to be driven home only
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Originally Posted by DaveL001
Guys, i need to get an MOT for the car i had before i bought my scoob, it has been sitting on my drive for nearly a year now, it has been declared SORN, so how do i go about getting it mot'd, so i can sell it, obviously it aint gonna sell wit no mot on it

Or if anyone knows an easy way to get an MOT PM me pls
cheers
You are, by law, allowed to drive a vehicle to and from an MOT without tax as long as you can prove you have insurance and an appointment. I had to do this the other week but had no number plates either. Didn't get stopped at all! I spoke to the police and DVLA regarding this matter before hand to clarify this.

Hope this helps,

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Originally Posted by DaveL001
Guys, i need to get an MOT for the car i had before i bought my scoob, it has been sitting on my drive for nearly a year now, it has been declared SORN, so how do i go about getting it mot'd, so i can sell it, obviously it aint gonna sell wit no mot on it

Or if anyone knows an easy way to get an MOT PM me pls
cheers
You can drive an untaxed car to a MOT testing centre, just expect to be asked to prove it if you get pulled. Problem is that the police are unlikely to be too lenient when they find out you are not insured which is the thing you should be worrying about.

Best to get a mechanic to drive it there and back, as being insured fully comp on another vehicle will not cut it for you when driving the scoob to its mot. Somebody else has to have an insurance policy on the car before that old chestnut becomes valid.
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right so its ok to drive with no tax, so long as its booked in.
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Originally Posted by DaveL001
right so its ok to drive with no tax, so long as its booked in.
YEP!!!
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You can be nicked if the vehicle is defective or considered to be unsafe in any way though.
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Originally Posted by mervil
You are, by law, allowed to drive a vehicle to and from an MOT without tax as long as you can prove you have insurance and an appointment. I had to do this the other week but had no number plates either. Didn't get stopped at all! I spoke to the police and DVLA regarding this matter before hand to clarify this.

Hope this helps,

Paul
But it would fail an MOT without plates !



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no its fine, its only covered 100 miles or so since last mot, started regulary though, so fingers crossed its ok. parents are moaning at me about having two cars on driveway!!!
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Originally Posted by DaveL001
no its fine, its only covered 100 miles or so since last mot, started regulary though, so fingers crossed its ok. parents are moaning at me about having two cars on driveway!!!
Just one thing to note, if the car has a CAT fitted, make sure you have a "spirited" drive to the MOT station to get it very hot and burn off any contamination.

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Originally Posted by teknobod
But it would fail an MOT without plates !
Originally Posted by teknobod



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IIRC, (and I'll have to check my MOT manual to be sure), but you do not have to have number plates to get an MOT, as long as you have the appropriate VIN numbers. Stangely, but true, you don't need to have lights on the car if you state or prove that the car has no need for such lighting as it won't be used during the hours of darkness!
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Originally Posted by craigdmcd


IIRC, (and I'll have to check my MOT manual to be sure), but you do not have to have number plates to get an MOT, as long as you have the appropriate VIN numbers. Stangely, but true, you don't need to have lights on the car if you state or prove that the car has no need for such lighting as it won't be used during the hours of darkness!


MOT test includes a check of:-

Condition, security, legibility and format of letters/numbers


As far as lights:-

Lights

All required lights are checked for:

operation
condition
security


Side lights and headlamps

are the correct type and colour
dip and aim.

Stop lights, indicators and hazard lights*

are the correct type and colour
do not interfere with each other in operation
driver's tell-tale works with respect to indicators, or there is an audible warning system.

Rear Fog lamps**

must be fitted to the centre or offside of the vehicle
tell-tale must work
must not be affected by other lamps and not be obscured
must be red.

Number plate lamps

All original lamps must be fitted and working.

Rear reflectors

There must be two reflectors fitted reasonably symmetrically, securely attached and not obscured.


* Must be fitted to all vehicles first used on or after 1st April 1986, but if fitted, must be tested.
** Must be fitted to all vehicles first used on or after 1st April 1980.
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[QUOTE=teknobod]MOT test includes a check of:-

Condition, security, legibility and format of letters/numbers


As far as lights:-

Lights

All required lights are checked for:

operation
condition
security


Side lights and headlamps

are the correct type and colour
dip and aim.

Stop lights, indicators and hazard lights*

are the correct type and colour
do not interfere with each other in operation
driver's tell-tale works with respect to indicators, or there is an audible warning system.

Rear Fog lamps**

must be fitted to the centre or offside of the vehicle
tell-tale must work
must not be affected by other lamps and not be obscured
must be red.

Number plate lamps

All original lamps must be fitted and working.

Rear reflectors

There must be two reflectors fitted reasonably symmetrically, securely attached and not obscured.


* Must be fitted to all vehicles first used on or after 1st April 1986, but if fitted, must be tested.
** Must be fitted to all vehicles first used on or after 1st April 1980.[/QUOTE]



The number plate issue, like I say, I would have to confirm, but I have Mot'd 2 cars from Japan with no plates, and where on the MOT certificate it shows the Registration number, I believe it read along the lines of "unregistered".
As for the lighting issue, I am 100% correct about this, as I did go on my MOT refresher course just 2 months ago (Have you been on yours that recently), and the VOSA teacher caught everyone out with a question aimed round this. I'll ask him to post if it will clarify the point.
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I was simply quoting from the Vosa website Craig.

To be fair, you can get away with a number of things for an MOT but still get tugged by the Feds under the "Construction and Use Regs".

Andy
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Originally Posted by teknobod
I was simply quoting from the Vosa website Craig.
Originally Posted by teknobod

To be fair, you can get away with a number of things for an MOT but still get tugged by the Feds under the "Construction and Use Regs".

Andy



Like you say Andy, the amount of leniancy in the MOT Handbook is ridiculous,for example, a third "high" level brake light cannot fail if it can't be determined if the unit is not wired in, even if it is a factory fit item(never admit to it working that morning). And the fact that the "Construction and Use Regs" are so far different is even more ridiculous, for example, coloured bulbs can pass an MOT if they are emitting enough "white" light, but PC Plod can do you for having the wrong colour of bulbs in.
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In the space for registration number was part of my chassis number, it was insured under my chassis number as car was unregistered. Had to inform Direct Line of Reg number when i got it from DVLA!
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