Hybrid TD04 turbo
Hybrid TD04 turbo
05 June 2005, 03:45 PM
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i was thinking of one of these as well, along with a hyperflow or sti8 intercooler.
i think you can get 310bhp/310ib/ft out of them on a uk99 with 3" decat exhaust and ported headers and sti filter plus tek 3 remap
but i would like to know of any real experience of them on a car??
i think you can get 310bhp/310ib/ft out of them on a uk99 with 3" decat exhaust and ported headers and sti filter plus tek 3 remap
but i would like to know of any real experience of them on a car??
05 June 2005, 04:05 PM
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Allegedly more like 320/320 - see http://andyforrestperformance.co.uk/16307.html According to the news section, two different versions have made 329.5bhp or 338 lbft - either is respectable for something that scrolls that quickly to my mind.
I'll join the queue of interested parties to hear more real experience. If I blow my standard TD04 in the meantime, this will be where I go.
I'll join the queue of interested parties to hear more real experience. If I blow my standard TD04 in the meantime, this will be where I go.
05 June 2005, 06:16 PM
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I think this turbo might be on the top of my shopping list along with this Intercooler/Chargecooler from Pace. 
http://www.paceproducts.co.uk/php/pr.../subaruimpreza
http://www.paceproducts.co.uk/php/pr.../subaruimpreza
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05 June 2005, 07:32 PM
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Just my opinion, don't bother with the Pace chargecooler, get TSL's version instead. TSL were co-developers of the Pace unit until their agreement went off. The Pace unit went to market at the last stage of the joint development. TSL went on to find faults with the core leaking and the rad/pipe designs being too small.
I must stress that I have no connection with TSL or Pace, I'm simply a customer of TSL's who has had their unit installed on my 52 WRX. The install is very neat and trick and the functionality is superb. I have pics if someone can tell me how to post?
I must stress that I have no connection with TSL or Pace, I'm simply a customer of TSL's who has had their unit installed on my 52 WRX. The install is very neat and trick and the functionality is superb. I have pics if someone can tell me how to post?
05 June 2005, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ScrappyDoo2
Just my opinion, don't bother with the Pace chargecooler, get TSL's version instead. TSL were co-developers of the Pace unit until their agreement went off. The Pace unit went to market at the last stage of the joint development. TSL went on to find faults with the core leaking and the rad/pipe designs being too small.
I must stress that I have no connection with TSL or Pace, I'm simply a customer of TSL's who has had their unit installed on my 52 WRX. The install is very neat and trick and the functionality is superb. I have pics if someone can tell me how to post?
I must stress that I have no connection with TSL or Pace, I'm simply a customer of TSL's who has had their unit installed on my 52 WRX. The install is very neat and trick and the functionality is superb. I have pics if someone can tell me how to post?
12 June 2005, 01:40 PM
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If it is just an uprated (i.e. bigger core size) top mount then yes the TSL chargecooler will be far superior. The air-air exchanger of the TSL unit is uprated anyway but on top of that you have coolant being circulated around it fed from a rad at the front of the car.
The connected advantages are:-
1) Benefits of a front mount without the lag (from the extra pipework)
2) More resistant to transient heat rises
3) Will cope with slow moving traffic far better than an uprated top mount which at the end of the day is still sat on top of the engine soaking up heat. A car with the TSL unit will radiate a lot of this heat out through the rad.
The connected advantages are:-
1) Benefits of a front mount without the lag (from the extra pipework)
2) More resistant to transient heat rises
3) Will cope with slow moving traffic far better than an uprated top mount which at the end of the day is still sat on top of the engine soaking up heat. A car with the TSL unit will radiate a lot of this heat out through the rad.
13 June 2005, 01:34 PM
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Have any of the guys with top mount intercoolers and charge coolers taken the trouble to measure the actual temperatures of the induction air at the throttle body?
The charge cooler might be stone cold but the air temperature at the throttle body may give you a shock.
Nomad Racing have handy little digital thermometers for measuring charge temps and you can watch the read out in cabin.
The charge cooler might be stone cold but the air temperature at the throttle body may give you a shock.
Nomad Racing have handy little digital thermometers for measuring charge temps and you can watch the read out in cabin.
13 June 2005, 02:31 PM
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I have and I do Harvey although I’d like one of those smaller Nomad temp displays as my meter is quite large – got any pictures in situ Harvey? The STI8 TMIC is quite good at reducing temps in my trials and VFM its hard to beat it.
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13 June 2005, 03:22 PM
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I have had the Nomad temp probe and guage fitted to my car now. Its a Leggy Turbo and after a blast throught the gears up to say 80 mph, the temps would be into the 50 deg C's.
Any higher speeds than that (on my private test track) have seen the temps up into the 60 degree mark.
The Ozzy lads are reporting up to 100 deg at the throttle body when running on track days and 1/4 milers
Crusing of boost would still be in the 30 - 40 deg bracket but the water in the cooler is cold
I think the water maybe being kept cold but the air going through the cooler to the throttle body is not in the cooler long enough to have any sort of sensible heat taken from it.
I have just had a Hybrid FMIC fitted and can report temps of no more than 25 deg C on a major "lengthy" blast and instant temp reduction the second the car returns to normal driving conditons.
If I'm cruising along off boost or just tickling the turbo the temps were only just above ambient. ie 1 - 2 degree above.
Harvey has given me some sound advice the last few weeks and fitting one of his Hybrid FMIC has been the most significant modification to the car to date. Even if it doesnt give me more outright power (no testing to tell yet) it will protect the car far better than I could have asked for with the Charge Cooler or a TMIC modified to fit.
The Nomad temp guage and probe should be classed as an essential along with the knocklink and AFR meter IMHO.
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Any higher speeds than that (on my private test track) have seen the temps up into the 60 degree mark.
The Ozzy lads are reporting up to 100 deg at the throttle body when running on track days and 1/4 milers
Crusing of boost would still be in the 30 - 40 deg bracket but the water in the cooler is cold
I think the water maybe being kept cold but the air going through the cooler to the throttle body is not in the cooler long enough to have any sort of sensible heat taken from it.I have just had a Hybrid FMIC fitted and can report temps of no more than 25 deg C on a major "lengthy" blast and instant temp reduction the second the car returns to normal driving conditons.
If I'm cruising along off boost or just tickling the turbo the temps were only just above ambient. ie 1 - 2 degree above.
Harvey has given me some sound advice the last few weeks and fitting one of his Hybrid FMIC has been the most significant modification to the car to date. Even if it doesnt give me more outright power (no testing to tell yet) it will protect the car far better than I could have asked for with the Charge Cooler or a TMIC modified to fit.
The Nomad temp guage and probe should be classed as an essential along with the knocklink and AFR meter IMHO.
Ste.
Last edited by STE.W.; 13 June 2005 at 03:33 PM.
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