Superloop

Hi

New to this (new to Scooby too)
Can anyone with experience tell me what to expect of the PPP on my 04 WRX?

Thanks in advance

Loop

billythekid

TEK 3 map, exhaust and intercooler hose for £1600.

If you got the above direct from a supplier you would prob save a min of £600, but no warranty.

Daz34

I've driven an MY03 scooby with this & it was a big improvement over standard.
Bags more torque & flexibility.
IMHO it is excellent value considering your warranty remains intact.

Try the Search function as there have been loads of threads about this

Darren

Superloop

Hi Billy

Erm was really after what kind of difference it will make to the car (sry didn't word well)

What does TEK 3 mean? I gues it something to do with the remapped ecu????

Thanks for response tho

Warrenty and insurance mean its ppp or nowt

Did deal with dealer to get it fitted for 1500 when i bought the car new and they're honoring it so .......... (100 quid a few pints i suppose ;-) )

Superloop

Sry shoulda done a search

billythekid

Sounds like a good deal then, the car will drive much better, you will get about 40bhp more power and I think its about 50ft/lb of torque.

Have a look at this.

http://www.prodrive.com/uploads/03MY%20WRX%20PPP.pdf

I have got similar mods on my 03 and its very good!

Superloop

Thanks mate - Just ordered (couldn't wait for replys) three or four weeks till it in though

Mind you give me time to run it in - service it - and try the car as it is so i can see the diff.

Just hope im not going to be disappointed.

billythekid

I doubt you will be dissapointed! I dont think I know anyone who has PPP and does not enjoy it.

Superloop

No-one got owt to add?

Come on help build the excitement here for me (i suppose you could also burst my bubble)

Are the prodrive figures right (they sound a bit too quick to me) and they're faster than Subarus qouted figures - Who's right or are Prodrives figures from high rpm launches while Subaru's are not?

jmk

Not really worth it. Have an 03 WRX with PPP and for the cash I really don't think the performance gain is all that noticable. Really think an STi would have been better buy but was put off by the gold wheels and the OTT spolier. I'm now paying considerably more insurance, a much higher excess and the number of companies would will even quote reduced significantly (and I'm 33!).

It does sound a hell of alot better though but I'm sure there's far better ways to get a nicer sound without invalidating your warranty if you have a freindly local dealer and fit the right parts.

craigdmcd

iTrader: (2)

Got an 04 WRX SL with the PPP and 18" PFF7's and STi spoiler, Looks the mutt's nutts, and goes very well. I have had quicker cars but it did manage to stick right on the tail of a standard 04 STi. Excellent car considering it's for the wife. I think the prodrive figures are more than a touch optimistic, but hey, it's good for bull**** down the pub
Craig

chris's scooby

Well i don't want to burst your bubble but you might want to read this thread;

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=362316

Chris

Scooby Lee

It's worth it for the exhaust note alone!!

Beefy

PPP is worth it for definate, makes driving the car loads more fun and makes it sound 10x better too.

It also gets reflected in your resale value as its an official modification and you get the Prodrive fitting certificate which supports this. I got around £500 more for my car when I sold it (MY03 PPP) than if it was a standard car, fair enough thats quite a loss but it was worth it IMO.

Enjoy!

Superloop

Thanks for the replys:

(I posted my dealings with Liverpool Victoria (which ended really well re PPP) is the post someone mentioned)

In summary from what you guys have said:

Everyone thinks it makes the car sound way better
One or two says not much extra performance
Most say or sound like they're saying i'll enjoy the extra power and while prodrive's 4.8 is bollox 5.2 like the STi is prob more like it

Fair appraisal????????? - hope so cos that says to me that i've done the right think ordering it

Apple

It's worth it if you want to keep the warranty

I had it fitted to my bugeye after 20K miles and the difference is great - OK, not what you might get with a full decat and remap (Tek 3) but the PPP allows the car to breathe and the mid-range punch is a lot better even though the figures say only 40bhp upgrade etc - it's the torque figures where you benefit.

with having mine fitted "late," I got used to the nuances of the non-PPP car and also the engine was nicely run in. I sometimes think that people who have it fitted either from new or near-as-damn-it new don't appreciate the change you get and then are always looking for the next performance hike / get bored with the existing setup quickly... it then becomes a glowing credit card to get the next fix

plus, start budgeting for other mods - brakes and suspension are good ones to take the extra "flexibility" - it's OK getting up to humungous speeds but you've got to be able to stop and go round corners as well (unless all you want to do is drive Santa Pod)

another good area to look at is driver training - nobody's perfect and scoobs can be a fair sized handful if you're not used to the handling and you're not invincible - just thing of Phil Mills in Germany and you haven't got a roll cage - someone on here once said that scoobs still have accidents (or "incidents") but they tend to be big ones...

Andy

Superloop

Ah well since i've ordered it i'm in the "not gonna appreciate the change" catagory

Should have at least a couple or three thou or it when its fitted though

Apple

enjoy it

PS If you want them and have space for them, ask for the bits the dealer takes off when they fit the PPP - back box, intercooler hose, centre cat etc just in case for later. You can't have the old ecu as it's an exchange unit and goes back to Prodrive for remapping for the next person to get PPP

PPS if you've got a UK supplied car with the standard alarm, remember to take all your sets of keys with you as they reprogram the keyfob / alarm to the ecu (or sumfink like that )

PPS (last one I think ) check the jubilee clips on the turbo compressor housing are tight as I know of someone who's had the pipe blow off a few times and then was told that the kit includes "uprated" jubilee clips which hadn't been fitted Mine used the originals and I haven'd had a problem to date (fingers crossed )

Jasoon

Superloop you will not be dissapointed with the PPP......

As for the 0-60 times apparently the time is an average of a number of times runs

FrenchBoy

Have a look at this thread with regards to the performance figures....

https://www.scoobynet.com/showthread.php?t=351756

Butty

iTrader: (2)

I've run Delta Dash several times and have confirmed several of the Prodrive 3rd/4th gear times.

Nick

DJ140

Anyone that claims the performance isn't up to much should return the car to their dealer for a check-up.

After mine was fitted there was a big difference in performance and more MPG, useful!! Plus a great sound.

And don't forget the Prodrive springs, driving lights..........

DJ140

A boost guage is good for checking that you are reaching the correct levels for the PPP. Mine reaches around 19PSI, in the higher gears.

Anyone know what a standard WRX max boost is, in PSI?

Dan

Apple

bugeye standard boost for me was 14psi and 18 with PPP (measured with Defi gauge)

03 & 04 models might be slightly higher due to developments on the car by subaru / prodrive

FrenchBoy

18 PSI or 1.2 bar