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Old 22 July 2004, 09:51 AM
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Default Used RB5 situation

Following on frm last weeks "used RB5 situation" thread, I just noticed this on Subaru's website.....


SUBARU IMPREZA 2.0 TURBO RB5 PRODRIVE

REGISTERED: JUL 1999
MILEAGE: 22,000
REGISTRATION: T886 TGF
TRANSMISSION: Manual
FUEL: Petrol
PRICE: £17,495

SUBARU IMPREZA 2.0 TURBO RB5 PRODRIVE FINISHED IN STEEL BLUE MICA WITH BLUE ALCANTARA INTERIOR. SPECIFICATION INCLUDES ANTI-LOCK BRAKES, DRIVERS AIR BAG, AIR CONDITIONING, R/C CATEGORY 1 ALARM, 17" ALLOY WHEELS, CENTRAL LOCKING, 6 DISC CD CHANGER, ELECTRIC WINDOWS, ENGINE IMMOBILISER, HEADLAMP WASH, POWER STEERING AND RADIO/CASSETTE. PIAA DRIVING LIGHTS, ELECTRIC MIRRORS.
£17.5k????

Must make mine a bargain!
Old 22 July 2004, 11:32 AM
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there is one on ebay "buy it now" for near on exactly half that
Old 22 July 2004, 11:42 AM
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If I had the money I'd buy all these cheap scoobs that are on here. Your RB5 which is absolutley stunning (think I saw it at Japfest ), a grey STI V6 which is going for only £1,500 more than I paid for my MY00 and yet to get my UK like the V6 its going cost a tad more than 1500 notes!

Just got to win the lottery and buy a big barn to keep them all. They'd be well looked after and sold off only to those who I thought would look after them in the same way I would.

Pipes dreams eh?
Old 22 July 2004, 06:35 PM
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But £17.5k! FFS

An STi 8 can be bought for £18k!
Old 22 July 2004, 06:51 PM
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£17.5k is silly money, though someone will undoubtedly pay it eventually. The P1 was something like £36k originally, when you could import a near identical brand new STI V for £26k, yet they all sold eventually.
Old 22 July 2004, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
£17.5k is silly money, though someone will undoubtedly pay it eventually. The P1 was something like £36k originally, when you could import a near identical brand new STI V for £26k, yet they all sold eventually.
Andy
IIRC it was only the WR edition P1 that cost 36K (basic was a mere 31.5K)
good point though because as u say they did all sell eventually
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Old 22 July 2004, 07:21 PM
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Actually not only that, but they eventually sold 1000 cars rather than the 500 initially promised. I do seem to remember a fair few unsold ones lingering around in dealers' showrooms for rather a long time, though...
Old 22 July 2004, 07:30 PM
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Andy

If you bought the sti5 at the right time and from a good importer -with the Yen rate at up to 240 to the £ in mid to late 1998 you could have picked up a Brand new S Plate sti5 for £19-£20k (T plates 1999 were several £k more due to the e/r move).............. not bad.......especially when you consider at the time that some Grey importers were charging up to £33k for the same car - now thats what I call a NICE PROFIT MARGIN!!

I laughed for ages when I heard that Subaru were bringing out the P1 (a 2 door based on the sti5) and I had a huge grin when I heard the price!! £8k more for a car with only 2 doors....horses for courses

£17.5K for an RB5 would be nice (someone who pays that must have had a labotomy) - I have a fairly mooded sti5 (I've spent about £40k on it plus the cost of the car, since purchase) which on a T Plate which I value for insurance purposes at about £15k...... yeah I know greedy me - probably not worth anywhere near that!!
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I think it was a mistake by Subaru to make a 1000 P1's as it did nothing for the rarity. Could argue RB5's and the other special are more exclusive.
BTW i have nothing against P1's and IMHO thay are very nice.
Mine is quite rare it's one of only about 27,000 MY99 Wagons LOL
Old 22 July 2004, 07:40 PM
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Hope mine can keep residuals like that,i'll make a 3 and a half grand profit after owning it for a couple of years
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If you can sell 1000 cars at £31.5k each, why exactly is it bad business to do so?

Subaru doesn't give a stuff about rarity - like any other business, they care about making money. It would only have been a mistake if they'd not all sold before the bugeye came out.
Old 22 July 2004, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by andyc_772
It would only have been a mistake if they'd not all sold before the bugeye came out.
They didn't all sell before the bugeye came out.

Could be wrong tho but i'm sure i read that somewhere
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I agree Subaru are not bothered about rarity but some customers of theirs are which is why they make the specials and to line their pockets of course

They may be only interested in making money now but i was once appreciated by IM and i've got the limited edition Rosewood Pen to prove it LOL

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There was a P1 on here a couple of days ago that didn't sell for £15k even tho it had reasonable mileage

If I thought I could sell my(your old)Sti PPP,without taking such an inevitable massive hit.

then I would (re)buy your RB in flash mate

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Originally Posted by Elmer Fudpucker
There was a P1 on here a couple of days ago that didn't sell for £15k even tho it had reasonable mileage

If I thought I could sell my(your old)Sti PPP,without taking such an inevitable massive hit.

then I would (re)buy your RB in flash mate

Jon


You aren't seriously considering trading down are you Jon?

Old 23 July 2004, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by talizman


You aren't seriously considering trading down are you Jon?


But I don't see it as trading down...the RB5,although down on power compared to the STi PPP is a much more enjoyable ride and is a much better drive with better power delivery(imho) and more importantly without that stinkin' 6-speed box...which to this day I cannot adapt to

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Old 23 July 2004, 12:16 AM
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eh elmer why u having trouble with the box
i find it easy enough
just get down your gym mate and build up those muscles
5 speeds for wimps
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Originally Posted by Elmer Fudpucker
But I don't see it as trading down...the RB5,although down on power compared to the STi PPP is a much more enjoyable ride and is a much better drive with better power delivery(imho) and more importantly without that stinkin' 6-speed box...which to this day I cannot adapt to

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I mean "trading down" in terms of price

Don't tempt me into swapping back!
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Originally Posted by jjones
there is one on ebay "buy it now" for near on exactly half that
Do you mean this one?

Claims power to be 237bhp, yet it doesn't have the Prodrive spoiler....

I was under the impression that the WR package consisted of PPP and Prodrive spoiler/speedo etc.

Anyway, why the hell hasn't it been snapped up at that price? Strange.....
Old 27 July 2004, 12:38 AM
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that does look like a fair deal, can't understand how someone hasn't snapped it up for £7200??? its definitely not a WR though so it'll only be 215bhp, still a very cheap car!!

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Old 27 July 2004, 09:45 AM
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I don't think any cars are getting 'snapped up' - mine was advertised for three weeks with almost no interest at all, then a whole flurry of enquiries arrived at once. It's a tricky market, I feel sorry for anyone trying to sell an Impreza that isn't in really good nick. Thankfully that's one problem I didn't have.
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
I don't think any cars are getting 'snapped up'
When they are advertised at practically 50% of the rest of the market (like this example), then I think its fair to say you'd expect it to be snapped up.
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Hm... not really - you don't know whether cars are actually being sold at the higher price either. £7400 is ballpark for a '99 scooby with 88k miles - maybe even a little high, but then again it's a special edition after all. I've never understood the silly prices people seem(ed) to pay for RB5's.
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
Hm... not really - you don't know whether cars are actually being sold at the higher price either. £7400 is ballpark for a '99 scooby with 88k miles - maybe even a little high, but then again it's a special edition after all. I've never understood the silly prices people seem(ed) to pay for RB5's.
I appreciate that the cars at the top end of the price scale may not be selling at that price, but they won't be massively discounted.

Subaru main dealers currently have 2 RB5's,
1) 79k miles non WR version - £15,000
2) 22k miles WR version - £17,500

£15k for a high mile non WR version.....

I can't see the dealers knocking any more than a grand off that, and even thats optimistic.

The one on ebay is almost half the price of the similar miles one at main dealers... not exactly consistency in pricing.....
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Am I missing something, the buy it now price is £7800 not £17.5 ?????
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Originally Posted by bits'n'pieces
Am I missing something, the buy it now price is £7800 not £17.5 ?????
I started this thread about the £17.5k one at main dealers.

Someone else mentioned that there is one on ebay for £7800.
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The market is not good at the present time.

We sold two RB5's a couple of months ago, after advertising for a while prices were:

WR, 60k, FSH, genuine car but not mint for £10k
non WR, 49k, FSH, absolutely mint £11k.

WellLane up North always have a few in stock and seem to be pricing them at £13k.
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