Brit_in_Japan

According to a RAC survey here motorists want to scrap the tax disk in favour of an increase in fuel tax as it's fairer.

Bet they didn't ask scooby owners !

milo

personally id prefer this... makes more sense.

but 20p/l more expensive? i dont think so - thats about twice what the average (10-12k/year, 300 miles from a tank) motorist pays for car tax. that sounds more like a scheme to increase total revenue than to keep revenue constant merely changing the method.

Katana

Um without tax discs, how can we ensure that the other party has MOT or insurance? If you got into a crashed with someone without insurance you'd get nothing out of it..

stevem2k

About time too. No more tax dodgers.. They'll need to make the insurance docs visible at the same time.


Steve

milo

u could still have the concept of a disc on the car - but u just wouldnt have to pay for it. it would be like a "my car is legal" disc.

or just punish people more harshly for no mot or insurance - and make them pay for any damage they cause.

other countries seem to manage just fine without car tax

Dracoro

2p on the price of a litre will cover the tax disc cost per year (assuming 8000 miles p/a or so).

Make it law to have an insurance disc (and an MOT one?) instead of the tax disc.

Simple.

But the government don't like simple ideas because they are usually transparent and therefore more difficult to generate more revenue, which, let's face it, is all they are really interested in.

AndyC_772

iTrader: (2)

Agree 100%, a flat rate tax on the car whether it's used or not is ridiculous. Why should I pay the same for my Westfield (which spends about 350 days/year in the garage) as I do for the Scooby? It makes my blood boil.

Ideally we'd have the cost of 3rd party insurance included with fuel, so there would be no need to prove that either - and it would make life a lot easier for people buying, selling and importing cars too. The only thing which would then need to be displayed on the car would then be an MOT disc to prove that the car was (once) roadworthy.

Hanslow

Interestingly it said on the beeb news this morning that insurance was likely to go up an average of 60 quid a year as a result of those motorists not having insurance.

So, for those that say they can't afford insurance and hence go without, how is that going to make it easier for them to afford it and become honest citizens again?????

I'd be happy to pay an extra 5p a litre on fuel to cover car tax. Think an extra 20 odd pence would be a bit much though

Dracoro

DON'T DRIVE, it's that simple. Driving a car is NOT a right, it's a privilege of having a licence and enough cash to run a car. Take the bus, the train, cycle, hitch, walk if it costs too much.

brickboy

If you do the maths, it works out to be a shocking amount for any car used regularly.

I do an average 14,000 miles a year, mix of work and SDP. Even at the average of 48MPG I get from the Passat I would pay £330 per year in tax (or £200 extra), if the road fund license was replaced by a 25p per litre fuel surcharge.

Let's hope Gordon Brown doesn't do the same sums himself, eh?

rotty

At 12k miles a year and 30mpg , 11p a litre would be the figure

AJbaseBloke

IMHO you'd better stay in Japan then

greg.g

If this goes ahead, its another nail in the coffin for gas guzzeling cars like the scooby
I use my car every day and do around 12k a year.
I would seriously think about getting a little run around KA for every day use.
Alright, it would be another insurance policy, but cheaper petrol, less mileage on the scooby and possibly cheaper insurance on it for a limited mileage policy.
I dont really want to be forced down this road though

Perhaps it would be a better idea to come down hard on the scumbags who drive without road tax when they are caught (not very often i know)[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img][img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Greg

currymonster

Would slaughter me as I do over 15k a year, long live the tax disk!

Cal

Brit_in_Japan

...100 octane petrol at 100 yen/litre (about 50p) is good, but tolls on expressways aren't cheap (6400yen for return home yesterday = about £30) and don't even mention the tax on cars here which makes £150 VED look like a raving bargain !

Psycologically though, filling up for about £20 feels much better

SiDHEaD

At 20p/litre I would most definately have to buy a second commuter car as i do about 28k miles pa!! However a few pence would be fine. The idea's a good'un IF it's not used as an INCREASED revenue source.

Andy

Floyd

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Driving without insurance may give you a fine of £300 plus 5 points if caught. I'd guess that's the maths that some people do when they choose not to have insurance. If they kill someone then they run away (oh and they don't register the car in their name when bought).

Sad but true!
F

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

A scheme to increase revenue?

From the Lying Labour party?


Surely not?:

Alcazar

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

And further to my above post. I reckon we'll all STILL have to register our cars on a national database for PNC etc etc.

They would probably do this for a nominal sum of £25 per year, which would, of course, have to rise with inflation, with a a little bit more to cover costs of setting up etc etc, and would soon be over £100.

They could call it "Road Tax"...................oh, sorry, isn't that where we came in???:

Alcazar