Would we all own Skylines if we could afford them??
03 May 2000, 12:28 AM
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Nah, they're too ugly.
I'd have more fun throwing serious money at my UK scoob (for subtlety value) and getting Prodrive to build me a derestricted WRC engine.
Or perhaps doing the same to a 22b 'cos they look so good.
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I'd have more fun throwing serious money at my UK scoob (for subtlety value) and getting Prodrive to build me a derestricted WRC engine.
Or perhaps doing the same to a 22b 'cos they look so good.
D
03 May 2000, 12:33 AM
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Ugly ??? Are you on drugs??
They are a work of art.
Beautiful poise with a purposeful look about them.
And although the scoob is a motoring delight they still aren't quite there with the build quality, whereas the Skyline feels like it is hewn from a titanium billet.
Grrrrraaarrrr
They are a work of art.
Beautiful poise with a purposeful look about them.
And although the scoob is a motoring delight they still aren't quite there with the build quality, whereas the Skyline feels like it is hewn from a titanium billet.
Grrrrraaarrrr
03 May 2000, 11:22 AM
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Well Wednesday is here again.
Two things really happen for me on a Wednesday. I'll be in the gym at 6.30, and inevitable my mates and me will get onto the famous 'What car would you buy if you won the lottery tonight' question.
Well amongst the Ferrari Marranellos and Zonda C12's grrrrr and Macca F1's, I always mention the R34 and the Impreza, but the Impreza for some reason is always further down the list.
Now Skylines relatively aren't really that expensive for the kit that you get? £43,000.00 gets you an all-conquering plateau from which you can tune to your hearts content.
Are we kidding ourselves, really if we could afford it would we all be on Skylinet bbs raving about Skylines Hmmmmmmmmm.
The next stage of my gym lottery car conversation then turns to the ultimate Impreza what we would buy and what we would do to it, but that’s a different thread.
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Two things really happen for me on a Wednesday. I'll be in the gym at 6.30, and inevitable my mates and me will get onto the famous 'What car would you buy if you won the lottery tonight' question.
Well amongst the Ferrari Marranellos and Zonda C12's grrrrr and Macca F1's, I always mention the R34 and the Impreza, but the Impreza for some reason is always further down the list.
Now Skylines relatively aren't really that expensive for the kit that you get? £43,000.00 gets you an all-conquering plateau from which you can tune to your hearts content.
Are we kidding ourselves, really if we could afford it would we all be on Skylinet bbs raving about Skylines Hmmmmmmmmm.
The next stage of my gym lottery car conversation then turns to the ultimate Impreza what we would buy and what we would do to it, but that’s a different thread.
[This message has been edited by Scott J Davies (edited 03-05-2000).]
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03 May 2000, 01:11 PM
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Hmmm, any 1000 brake road legal car would do :-) That lemon jobbie owned by the computer guy in scotland - yes pleeeeeeease!
Or a TVR Speed 12
I do like the look of the Skyline, esp from the front - nice and aggressive.
Or a TVR Speed 12
I do like the look of the Skyline, esp from the front - nice and aggressive.
03 May 2000, 01:21 PM
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Depends on your reasons for buying a car I guess. I quite like the fact that the Scoob is so practical with four doors and a fair amount of cabin space. I think the V-Spec GT-Rs only come in two door form, you have to go "down" to a GT-S to get a four-door Skyline. For their size, they don't have a massive amount of room inside.
That said, if I did win the Lottery, a Skyline probably would be on my shopping list!!
Of course, this begs the question, would you buy a car from a manufacturer that has made a loss for the last six years? Roll on the Renault Skyline...
That said, if I did win the Lottery, a Skyline probably would be on my shopping list!!
Of course, this begs the question, would you buy a car from a manufacturer that has made a loss for the last six years? Roll on the Renault Skyline...
03 May 2000, 02:01 PM
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I am fortunate to be in the position where could choose to run a Skyline if I wanted to, I haven't yet, and I won't for a fair while.
I like driving on country backroads where a well setup Scooby or Evo will leave pretty much any Skyline behind, given comparable drivers.
I have a friend who runs a Supra Twin Turbo... 3 litres, two turbos, ~420bhp through the back wheels... nice, but, like the skyline, it is much heavier than the rally-refugees, hence less able on tighter, twistier routes. He prefers motorways and other big, smooth, wide roads, as you would imagine!
Having said all this, I suspect I may well get a Skyline at some point in the future, when I want a more sedate and refined car. It's kind of a thing I've decided to do one-day, in the same way that some people say you must own a cosworth at some time in your life.
Moray
I like driving on country backroads where a well setup Scooby or Evo will leave pretty much any Skyline behind, given comparable drivers.
I have a friend who runs a Supra Twin Turbo... 3 litres, two turbos, ~420bhp through the back wheels... nice, but, like the skyline, it is much heavier than the rally-refugees, hence less able on tighter, twistier routes. He prefers motorways and other big, smooth, wide roads, as you would imagine!
Having said all this, I suspect I may well get a Skyline at some point in the future, when I want a more sedate and refined car. It's kind of a thing I've decided to do one-day, in the same way that some people say you must own a cosworth at some time in your life.
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03 May 2000, 03:14 PM
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I've driven a few skylines and have to say they are stunningly good cars. But...
'Good' (in the same way as 'Better') is a subjective word.
I personally much prefer the Scoob. The Skyline is like driving a video game. It does everything for you. I truly believe that if you owned one for a year and drove it enthusiastically (sp?), then got into a scooby or almost any other 'sports' car, yo would stand a seriously high chance of stuffing it.
The subaru is an incredibly competent car also. But it is competent through engineering, set-up and design, not by electronic intervention.
When you drive a Subaru on the limit, it is YOU that's doing it. I prefer that challenge.
Having said that.. If it was lottery time, I would definately get one, just for the sheer performance and a play thing. But if it is a choice, I would almost certainly have an EVO (let alone a scooby) before a Skyline.
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'Good' (in the same way as 'Better') is a subjective word.
I personally much prefer the Scoob. The Skyline is like driving a video game. It does everything for you. I truly believe that if you owned one for a year and drove it enthusiastically (sp?), then got into a scooby or almost any other 'sports' car, yo would stand a seriously high chance of stuffing it.
The subaru is an incredibly competent car also. But it is competent through engineering, set-up and design, not by electronic intervention.
When you drive a Subaru on the limit, it is YOU that's doing it. I prefer that challenge.
Having said that.. If it was lottery time, I would definately get one, just for the sheer performance and a play thing. But if it is a choice, I would almost certainly have an EVO (let alone a scooby) before a Skyline.
Regards
Simon
03 May 2000, 03:46 PM
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Cat amongst the pigeons time.
If Skylines were exactly the same cost as a Scoob would ya have one then.
Moray, a well hustled Skyline on the track would wup Scooby ***, as it would most things!!!
If Skylines were exactly the same cost as a Scoob would ya have one then.
Moray, a well hustled Skyline on the track would wup Scooby ***, as it would most things!!!
03 May 2000, 04:51 PM
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Scott
I know what you are getting at, but I wouldn't be so sure.
If you put a novice driver in a skyline and then a scooby, the skyline would win, but a skilled driver... maybe a different story.
Depends on the circumstances of the track.
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I know what you are getting at, but I wouldn't be so sure.
If you put a novice driver in a skyline and then a scooby, the skyline would win, but a skilled driver... maybe a different story.
Depends on the circumstances of the track.
Cheers
Simon
03 May 2000, 05:11 PM
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Not so sure I agree with you, Skylines are ultra quick track tools, have been a passenger never a pilot but It seemed as though it would have lapped quicker than my WRX no matter the driver, admitadely it was a 450 bhp beast . Look at the Nurinburg ring times.(sp)
Not so sure I agree with you, Skylines are ultra quick track tools, have been a passenger never a pilot but It seemed as though it would have lapped quicker than my WRX no matter the driver, admitadely it was a 450 bhp beast . Look at the Nurinburg ring times.(sp)
03 May 2000, 05:39 PM
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Scott,
I said a well sorted scooby/evo will be quicker than most skylines down the kind of real world british country backroads that I like to drive on.
I don't doubt a skyline is quick on a track, as are supras, but these good track cars simply don't cut it on the roads I most enjoy.
I reckon that, unless you are a locally living full time track instructor with 24-7 access to a track, or well off enough to run a track-car seperate to your everyday transport, there is no rational reason to compromise the car's road-going ability just to get better times during the little time you spend on the track.
As I stated, I like skylines, and may well own one in the future, but it won't be as quick as my car on the roads (see, I said roads, not tracks! ) I want to drive.
Moray
(I have been overtaken by one on a track, two bends later I waved to him as he sat stationary, facing me in the middle of the corner... hehe...)
I said a well sorted scooby/evo will be quicker than most skylines down the kind of real world british country backroads that I like to drive on.
I don't doubt a skyline is quick on a track, as are supras, but these good track cars simply don't cut it on the roads I most enjoy.
I reckon that, unless you are a locally living full time track instructor with 24-7 access to a track, or well off enough to run a track-car seperate to your everyday transport, there is no rational reason to compromise the car's road-going ability just to get better times during the little time you spend on the track.
As I stated, I like skylines, and may well own one in the future, but it won't be as quick as my car on the roads (see, I said roads, not tracks!
) I want to drive.Moray
(I have been overtaken by one on a track, two bends later I waved to him as he sat stationary, facing me in the middle of the corner... hehe...)
03 May 2000, 05:43 PM
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Think of it this way...
It is a fact that a sorted Elise will whoop both a scooby and a skyline through certain situations, like tight twisty bends with no real straights.
The overall grunt of the skyline is the only thing which can beet a scooby. An Impreza will change direction quicker, will hold a higher lateral G in a turn (with the right suspension) and it will ride bumps under braking and cornering better (in my experience).
I'm not saying the scoob will out perform a skyline in all situations. Quite the reverse, the skyline will kick scooby but in the majority of situations but.. I was just saying, 'I wouldn't be so sure' that 'A well hussled skyline *would* wup scooby *** on the track'
It all depends on the circumstances.
Cheers
Simon
It is a fact that a sorted Elise will whoop both a scooby and a skyline through certain situations, like tight twisty bends with no real straights.
The overall grunt of the skyline is the only thing which can beet a scooby. An Impreza will change direction quicker, will hold a higher lateral G in a turn (with the right suspension) and it will ride bumps under braking and cornering better (in my experience).
I'm not saying the scoob will out perform a skyline in all situations. Quite the reverse, the skyline will kick scooby but in the majority of situations but.. I was just saying, 'I wouldn't be so sure' that 'A well hussled skyline *would* wup scooby *** on the track'
It all depends on the circumstances.
Cheers
Simon
03 May 2000, 05:46 PM
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PS: Of course, a well drriven "450"bhp skyline is going to be quicker than most 200 to 300 bhp rally refugees! I wonder how a "450"bhp skyline would fare against 400bhp evo (or scooby), assuming they had reasonable money spent on the engine? I suspect power to weight would still be on the evo's side!
03 May 2000, 10:24 PM
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I agree with Scott,
The R34's just look simply awesome and is currently one of the rarest cars in the UK. I saw a *real* one the other day (heard it forst) and it looked stunning.
If I had the money, the Porsche wouldnt get it, but the Skyline would!
Simon,
Your STI v-limited also looks stunning mate, pulls a great 2nd gear wheelspin when dumped from 7000rpm too! You should try it.
No really, looks lovely, look forward to seeing it being driven by yerself.
Cem
The R34's just look simply awesome and is currently one of the rarest cars in the UK. I saw a *real* one the other day (heard it forst) and it looked stunning.
If I had the money, the Porsche wouldnt get it, but the Skyline would!
Simon,
Your STI v-limited also looks stunning mate, pulls a great 2nd gear wheelspin when dumped from 7000rpm too! You should try it.
No really, looks lovely, look forward to seeing it being driven by yerself.
Cem
03 May 2000, 11:20 PM
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i wouldnt go for a skyline, too heavy for my tastes. I prefer lightweight, highly manouverable, powerfull cars. The Evo or Scoob is ideal in the real world, on track give me a RWD cossie with big power or a westfield.
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