dba

The guy is a single seat racing driver and he was flinging the RS everywhere,with ease.I'm not a techy dude but I think the diff just meant he could hold on and keep his foot planted,the car just went.I think he was bored with it tbh.

I can only compare this sensation with a battered red shed wagon called Red5,and driven by its nutter owner Docjocks Scoob is faster,more fun,and is just plain better to be in as a passenger.Your senses are battered a lot more,the ride in the Focus was just fast,thats it,nothing else.

Docjocks car V the Focus?

DJs wins easy,the Focus is great,just seemed easy to drive fast,or this guy made it look easy.


having said that i bet they get the ***** tuned off 'em and another 10 years of bbs wars will follow

uncle buck

tune 'em to **** they are still only two wheel drive - where's your traction, oh, there isn't any!

dba

exactly

TIFF-C20WTH

Hand bags at 20 paces i think

st3v3

hey hey tiff hows it going matey

did i miss much at the meet today?

cheer
steve

B5DTE

Just wait for the cossie focus though,

imagine the rs beats an impreza round a track by six seconds,

a cossie focus will be at least 12 seconds.........

smartrs

well the rs has the looks and the peformance !! so what if it has a little torque steer it all part of the course

mrxwhatsisnamejoby

Clarkson still prefered the scoob

m18use

Seen it at the motorshow and i want one

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

WHAT Cossie Focus????
Believe it exists when it's in the showrooms, guys. Insider info says they can't make it on the existing platform................
Mwaaaa haaaaa haaaa haaaaaaa!
Alcazar

st3v3

yes they can... ;-)

DocJock

>>I can only compare this sensation with a battered red shed wagon called Red5,and driven by its nutter owner. Docjocks Scoob is faster,more fun,and is just plain better to be in as a passenger

Cheers Dave...cheque's in the post etc

Anyway, before they all get excited, they want to remember
a) RedShed is a wagon
b) Has gold wheels

so it's obviously much better than standard, so it's not a fair comparison



[Edited by DocJock - 10/28/2002 7:20:19 AM]

dingy

The MK 2 Focus is having an adaptive floorplan to take 4wd, due in 2004 apparently.

I can't believe you are slagging it off, when i have seen Mondeo220's beat the new 02 car round dono.....

chiark

Dingy, this *is* scoobynet . Remind yourself that and you still can't believe it?

dba

Dingy,

I haven't slagged it off! The RS was extremely rapid,but was just dull to sit in as a passenger.Just a sensation of speed and er,thats it.Did nothing for me from the passenger seat,and as I say,compared to Docs wagon,I could stay all day in that thing,but the RS was just well,characterless,for want of a better description.

Don't get me wrong,i would be happy with it for years until any glimmer of ability started to catch up,but for a well oiled Impreza owner i cannot see the RS attracting their wallets.

The diff just seems too good,no ability needed.Would 115 down Craner in a battered Scoob be more exciting than 120 in Quiafed RS?

just me 2p.But seems astonishing that the RS is more suited to a novice like me,for more advanced drivers i would have thought the RS would seem er,a bit easy?

ps its not the gold wheels DJ,its the black road warrior ones that make the difference

[Edited by dba - 10/28/2002 9:28:04 AM]

dingy

Yeah forgot about that, i allways go on what i see not what the sheep think


The RS Focus looked pretty impressive on track where as the new scoob looks very dull.

Hence me having a *** plus BHP 27 year old shed.

ScoobySnack

ok ok....

Anyone out there able to have a educated guess on the tuning potential for the new focus and its likely cost... ?

I'll also throw in my view... Had a Scooby and loved it, but also wouldn't mind the Focus. Looks great and goes well by the look of it...

J

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

My 2p's worth
The RS focus does come with Traction control so no real torque steer there, it does have big brakes, it is quicker round a track than its competitors but its not as quick on the road
(and the way that Clarkson was driving it on Top Gear yesterday it looked damn right scary on anything but smooth roads, ie most of britains roads )
Sometimes you can make a car too good and too flattering for the driver, it just means bigger and nastier accidents when they happen

Tony

dba

"The RS Focus looked pretty impressive on track where as the new scoob looks very dull."

agreed! but a battered MY97 wagon steaming up ya chuff looks and sounds better than both (and I don't do sheep )

personally I prefer the road warrior look to the "man about town who does trackdays" (he says,who actually runs a 147 and does trackdays,pot calling the kettle a bird in the hand i think)



[Edited by dba - 10/28/2002 10:40:38 AM]

dingy

I wouldn't know what wagon approaching you from behind feel's like



only that the are easy to overtake

DocJock

Dingy

Beat me to it ya git
Long live old sheds

chiark

I've not driven one... But if Evo, Clarkson and JK independently say the thing has a mind of its own and wants to follow white lines, or go in the direction it was pointing when you squeezed the throttle, then surely that's torque steer of a sort?

I'm not mechanical at all, but traction control is a different kettle of fish completely to torque steer.

I'm utterly sold on non-front-wheel-drive cars now, but am intrigued and would like a test drive in the RS...

...but you can't get one, no dealer has one to play with, and they're sold up until March/April delivery.

The footage of clarkson fighting the diff was scary though.

dba

Chairk,

Like me,i don't understand iteither,but i think,if i remember Docjocks and Theos explanation of it,that torque steer and what the diff is doing are technically 2 different things.

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

The traction control should eliminate the torque steer by reducing the power to the front wheels, the diff is mechanical on the other hand and if its over sensitive then it will skip all over the place, this aint really torque steer (but then again were any of the testers driving with the TC on?)

Tony