Don't you just love the quality of the paint job on the P1
31 July 2001, 12:12 AM
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Christ, I've just had a look at your pics, I can't believe the amount of chips. What I don't understand though is the front bumper is a normal item ie: not touched or painted by Prodrive, and it still looks bad. I hope Subaru UK are being extremely nice to you.
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31 July 2001, 12:23 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by robin lowry:
<B>Christ, I've just had a look at your pics, I can't believe the amount of chips. What I don't understand though is the front bumper is a normal item ie: not touched or painted by Prodrive, and it still looks bad. I hope Subaru UK are being extremely nice to you.
Robin[/quote]
I wouldn't go as far as saying nice. They originally only offered to replace the front spoiler as this was a part provided by Prodrive, however after speaking to John Sherwood (customer services manager at IM, decent bloke) and stating that a number of other people have had the bumper replaced as well, is seems I may get the same.
Unfortunately the replacement spoiler and bumper are delivered to the dealer unpainted. The dealer then has to paint the parts themselves and in doing this the responsibility for a future grievances are then placed on the dealer in question. When I asked my dealer if he would be prepared to replace the parts again when they get covered in stone chips again, their response was a definite NO.
The outcome of this is that I only plan to have the spoiler/bumper replaced just before Christmas when the car is sold.
Regards
Paul
<B>Christ, I've just had a look at your pics, I can't believe the amount of chips. What I don't understand though is the front bumper is a normal item ie: not touched or painted by Prodrive, and it still looks bad. I hope Subaru UK are being extremely nice to you.
Robin[/quote]
I wouldn't go as far as saying nice. They originally only offered to replace the front spoiler as this was a part provided by Prodrive, however after speaking to John Sherwood (customer services manager at IM, decent bloke) and stating that a number of other people have had the bumper replaced as well, is seems I may get the same.
Unfortunately the replacement spoiler and bumper are delivered to the dealer unpainted. The dealer then has to paint the parts themselves and in doing this the responsibility for a future grievances are then placed on the dealer in question. When I asked my dealer if he would be prepared to replace the parts again when they get covered in stone chips again, their response was a definite NO.
The outcome of this is that I only plan to have the spoiler/bumper replaced just before Christmas when the car is sold.
Regards
Paul
31 July 2001, 12:26 AM
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If the paint does crack etc again, is it not as a result of the paint not sticking to the plastic?
If this is the case how can they refuse?
This issue is getting more disturbing!
Is it just the plastic bits?
If this is the case how can they refuse?
This issue is getting more disturbing!
Is it just the plastic bits?
31 July 2001, 12:34 AM
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Medders,
While it pains me to say it, the paint work on the P1 is a serious ***** in it's armour.
I love everything else about the car. I can even put up with not being able to put things like pens and CD cases in the glove box/door pockets, due to the rattling.
I have got used to taking my keys to bed with me at night.
I can just about cope with the fuel consumption.
I dont mind that the Subaru dealer network(customer service) is not geared up to sell £30K cars.
What I cannot cope with is thinking how the car is going to look in 12-18 months time when I have put another 25000 miles on the clock. It is this reason and this reason alone why I have chosen to cut my losses an get rid of the car while it still looks half decent.
Paul
[This message has been edited by paulmon (edited 31 July 2001).]
While it pains me to say it, the paint work on the P1 is a serious ***** in it's armour.
I love everything else about the car. I can even put up with not being able to put things like pens and CD cases in the glove box/door pockets, due to the rattling.
I have got used to taking my keys to bed with me at night.
I can just about cope with the fuel consumption.
I dont mind that the Subaru dealer network(customer service) is not geared up to sell £30K cars.
What I cannot cope with is thinking how the car is going to look in 12-18 months time when I have put another 25000 miles on the clock. It is this reason and this reason alone why I have chosen to cut my losses an get rid of the car while it still looks half decent.
Paul
[This message has been edited by paulmon (edited 31 July 2001).]
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31 July 2001, 11:08 AM
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medders - that was Paulmon's pic, I just corrected the ubb code.
Anyway, I'd heard rumours of the earlier spoilers suffering. Mine was fine for 6 months (then i sold the car). Note though, i got through 3 spoilers in 2 weeks due to poor build quality initially.
Rgds, Alex
Anyway, I'd heard rumours of the earlier spoilers suffering. Mine was fine for 6 months (then i sold the car). Note though, i got through 3 spoilers in 2 weeks due to poor build quality initially.
Rgds, Alex
31 July 2001, 11:10 AM
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Yep, had a similar problem, but mine was on the end bits. My dealer had a brand new one from Prodrive delivered and fitted.
My advice is to get a new one and not have yours repaired, as I think Prodrive now paint these properly.
Good luck
Robin
My advice is to get a new one and not have yours repaired, as I think Prodrive now paint these properly.
Good luck
Robin
31 July 2001, 11:13 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by medders:
<B>Dr Evil, what on earth did that ?????
I know people have commented in the past re this, but i didn't know they were that bad! Does everyone have the problem?
Worried now.[/quote]
Dr Evil, kindly posted the image on my behalf because I am a num nuts. As to the cause, it was done last night while cleaning the car with a karcher washer. The nozzle of the washer was at least 3 feet away from the car, the same as I have done since March.
On closer inspection there appears to be a hairline crack where the carbon fibre jobby ends.
Another warranty claim to go alongside a new front bumper and new spoiler.
Stroll on December when I return to BMW fold.
<B>Dr Evil, what on earth did that ?????
I know people have commented in the past re this, but i didn't know they were that bad! Does everyone have the problem?
Worried now.[/quote]
Dr Evil, kindly posted the image on my behalf because I am a num nuts. As to the cause, it was done last night while cleaning the car with a karcher washer. The nozzle of the washer was at least 3 feet away from the car, the same as I have done since March.
On closer inspection there appears to be a hairline crack where the carbon fibre jobby ends.
Another warranty claim to go alongside a new front bumper and new spoiler.
Stroll on December when I return to BMW fold.
31 July 2001, 11:19 AM
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Oh dear.
My car is a later model I think as it's armourfended (which has some nice little marks in it)
One chip on the bonnet.
It would appear that the armourfend on the lip will take a hammering. Can you replace this and does it totally protect the paint underneath?
Medders
My car is a later model I think as it's armourfended (which has some nice little marks in it)
One chip on the bonnet.
It would appear that the armourfend on the lip will take a hammering. Can you replace this and does it totally protect the paint underneath?
Medders
31 July 2001, 11:27 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by medders:
<B>Oh dear.
My car is a later model I think as it's armourfended (which has some nice little marks in it)
One chip on the bonnet.
It would appear that the armourfend on the lip will take a hammering. Can you replace this and does it totally protect the paint underneath?
Medders[/quote]
Mine has the amourfend on the lip spoiler. Unfortunately it doesn't help matters. My car looks like its covered in flies even after it has been cleaned.
All the photos can be view here (hopefully)
<B>Oh dear.
My car is a later model I think as it's armourfended (which has some nice little marks in it)
One chip on the bonnet.
It would appear that the armourfend on the lip will take a hammering. Can you replace this and does it totally protect the paint underneath?
Medders[/quote]
Mine has the amourfend on the lip spoiler. Unfortunately it doesn't help matters. My car looks like its covered in flies even after it has been cleaned.
All the photos can be view here (hopefully)
31 July 2001, 11:45 AM
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I would love a P1 but cant believe that the finish is so poor for a £31 grand car.
No wonder there is still a brand new one in the showroom near me.
Still - bet it drives great
Jas
No wonder there is still a brand new one in the showroom near me.
Still - bet it drives great
Jas
31 July 2001, 06:10 PM
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Paul
May I suggest you speak to Mellow Y and then have a polite word with the service manager at our local dealership (Robinsons).
As they say you may learn something to your advantage
The spoiler is certainly a serious fault, the problems with the spoiler were well documented before you got the car. But IMO if anyone expects to cover the ground at 130+ and not get chipped paintwork they are likely to be dissapointed.
I've not only chips but dents, I believe its something to to with projectiles and velocity.
B
May I suggest you speak to Mellow Y and then have a polite word with the service manager at our local dealership (Robinsons).
As they say you may learn something to your advantage
The spoiler is certainly a serious fault, the problems with the spoiler were well documented before you got the car. But IMO if anyone expects to cover the ground at 130+ and not get chipped paintwork they are likely to be dissapointed.
I've not only chips but dents, I believe its something to to with projectiles and velocity.
B
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