Krade

I'm sure This has been discussed b4 but I really P's me off.

I cant understand y when there is the smallest patch of Mist from the local park that lasts for about twenty yards at most, everyone seems to think they need their Fog lights on, then forget to turn them off and drive round for the next 3 weeks with their rear fog on.

Why do people insist on Driving along at night within the Front Fog lights on? (poser Lights), All they manage to do is blind oncoming traffic, now add all the peps who have adjustable headlights and think that setting them to high level is a good idea. I seem to spend half the night waiting for my eyes to adjust from the glare from halogen poser lights.

Am just being a grouch????

P1Fanatic

Ur just a grouch

Krade

Im just glad that most scooby Drivers dont as otherwise the high street would look like a special night stage on the RAC rally

chiark

Grouch

Although it's made "cool" by car mags insisting on photgraphing cars with fog lights on. Hell, even the new ford galaxy advert shows the car/minibus with them switched on!

SWRTWannabe

Agree with you on the rear fogs - bloody annoying and if you try to indicate to the other driver that they have left them on, they will be completely oblivious. Tried it the other weekend, but the woman just looked at me like I was off another planet. Which is very true - I come from planet Earth - God only knows what planet she was from

Front fogs - never really had any problem with being dazzled by them - when I bought a Scoob from a dealer some years ago he even said that they weren't too bright to be used at night.

MATTeL

Well using the front and rear forgs when not approiate is an offence, suprised the police don't jump all over this one (fine and points are a possibility).

I hate rear fogs being left on, front ones are annoying IMHO.

There is a worrying "trend" near me at the moment to drive around with side lights on and fogs at night.

A had a police car sat behind me one night and a car went past "lit" up like this at 23:00 a few weeks back, did they do anything? Well, yes they did. I got pulled over for sounding like I was going too fast (again)![img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

There seems to be a vendetta against me at the moment but that is a different story...

Dan B

what about those irritating little blue lights that some people stick on their windscreen wipers? Whats that all about?

P20SPD

iTrader: (1)

it helps that scoobs turn their rears off automatically when you turn the ignition off. why cant all cars do this??

Dan B

Unless its a Jap import of Course

H7

What's the point of rear fogs? IMO, they just mask the brake lights which makes their use dangerous. Most people seem to put them on at the slightest hint of mist when their car is easily visible. In thick fog, people should be driving at a speed that they can stop before hitting anything anyway. So what's the point?

P20SPD

iTrader: (1)

oh i did not know that!!

Krade

Highway code

94 You MUST NOT
use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other road users
use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves to avoid dazzling other road users.
Law RVLR reg 27



201 You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves (see Rule 211).
Law RVLR regs 25 & 27

211 You MUST NOT use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced (see Rule 201) as they dazzle other road users and can obscure your brake lights. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves.
Law RVLR regs 25 & 27




LOL ive just thought of another moan, Peps with High level Brake lights who sit at trafiic lights with the bloody brakes on. Especially helpfull at nighttime

Hmm maybe Id better stop or you will all be calling me a grumpy old man soon

[Edited by Krade - 7/24/2002 1:14:42 PM]

Brendan Hughes

Following a car on the motorway who had his fogs on in good visibility.

Cop car overtook us, the one with the black readout screen and red text on the back that flashes "STOP". He pulled in front of the offender and the message changed to "Fog lights OFF"

I want one of them...

dsmith

H7 - you're kidding right ?

You've genuinely never been in fog/very heavy rain/snow so thick you cant see normal rear lights until you're about 10ft away ?

Rear fogs = useful.
Front fogs = next to useless.

Both should be turned off unless visibilty is seriously reduced.

Deano

Trouser @ TSL

.. YES!!.. what is it with these loons running around with excessive light appendages!! We... er I mean they.. are obviously making up for inadequacies in other areas ... I wouldn't endorse that behaviour m'lud

mutant_matt

Not much to add except, Krade, you're right, this thread has been done before.....more than a couple of times in fact

Question is, someone on this board must have a good idea to combat the pain in the **** idiots who do this?

Matt

Hol

iTrader: (1)

Front fogs are for fog, and they DO actually work.

A few years (12) back my Girlfriend was drinving us into the country and had to turn back cos visability was sooo bad away from streetlights. Got in my car (An Escort!) and put the fogs on for the narrow lanes and suddenly could see both sides of the road (10ft wide!).

However, that is what they are supposed to be used for, and I get annoyed by muppets who treat them like driving lights.
If they were Pukka DL's they would not be wired up to come on with the sidelights.

Dan B

Matt: Front mounted machine guns?

swaussie

I treat those W@nkers who drive around with their frount fogs on like those who drive with high beam on. Its annoying and yes they might not be as bright as high beams but they still dazzle you so I flash my High Beams, but it feels pointless as everyone seems to have them on nowadays.

GazP

Full beam normally gets the message accross to the idiots. Not so much Scoob owners as Saxo and BMW owners I find.

Still one of my pet hates.

ScoobyJawa

Aye full beam With my 130w Cibies - take that!!

yoza

Who said you need fog,for fog lights?
I have mine on all the time,quite like gettin flashed by compleate strangers
It doesnt mean foggy conditions,it means GET OUTTA MY WAY A55EHOLE!
Flame suit on....next reply please

dsmith

Nooo you've misread the owners book ! they mean
:-

GET OUTTA MY WAY I AM AN A55EHOLE

yoza

Your dead right there......
my mistake....
wots your name again.

Dark Blue Mark

I find PIAA lights force them into turning them off, or crashing

****ing c**k su*king **** face w*****s.

MB

[Edited by Dark Blue Mark - 7/24/2002 4:04:53 PM]

swaussie

annoying if you are followed by someone who has forgotten where his dimmer switch is.

[Edited by swaussie - 7/24/2002 4:43:03 PM]

yoza

One time at band camp.......

ZIPPY

When i got pulled by them people in funny coloured cars with them on (Front Fogs) he said can you turn your TW*T lights out,when i laughed he said its because only TW*TS drive round with them on.
ps, i wasnt driving my Scoob.
Got his point across i suppose.

Zippy

Lenny.

Yup, 130W Cibie sorts them out!!!!

chiark

Yeah, that show's 'em who's got the biggest doesn't it? *sigh*

Front fogs: annoying but not dangerous, blinding, distracting or dazzling as they're aimed low and wide

Cibies/PIAAs/Headlights: straight into someone's eyes. At night this causes night blindness. So that's safe then.

So go ahead, cause an accident for someone being a bit of an ****. We drive imprezas so we must be better.

Sorry, having a bad day and this strikes me as snobbery / "mine's bigger than yours" now.