Robbie010

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Now that my classic resto has gone ****-up I'm mulling over the idea of chopping in my current A4 Avant and buying a newage (Hawkeye) as a daily driver, either a WRX STI Type UK or a GB270.

In the first instance, I am just looking for a little advice.

Are either of these car thought to be better than the other based on standard spec, more reliable etc? I assume the WRX STI Type UK will be a better spec than the GB270?

Are either plagued with known faults that I should look out for?

Thanks in advance.

Gambit

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both STI & GB270 suffer headgasket issues - generally same failure issue as noted here
https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...-failures.html

Now before all the nay sayers jump in going ohhh no stay away from 2.5's point blank

these cars are now over 10yr old - plenty have been rebuilt/forged etc so do your homework and look for the right car

a 2.5 is a cracking daily driver car, i had a hawk sti, now a forged hatch sti used as my daily drivers for over 5yrs now

Jonnys3

Worth mentioning the secondary air pump system which will inevitably cause a problem at some point, unless it's already been addressed. Inevitably some component will fail ... usually sticking valves, although mine was the relay switch which got stuck in the open position, burned out the pump and left a valve partially open. Removal will require the error codes to be mapped out so be prepared for an ECUTek license fee if the car doesn't already have one.

Gambit

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dont need ecutek license to remove the codes - can be done on opensource

though if you get an ecutek license you can set the run time to 0 and hence have it all still plumbed in doing nowt if you dont fancy removing it

Jonnys3

I had my pump remediation work done at Scoobyworld which included the cost of an ECUTek license, but the system is all still plumbed in, albeit with a knackered pump and custom blanking plate fitted to the valve which was slightly stuck open. I guess that's why I needed an ECUTek license then.

the shreksta

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what does this air pump do? im not sure if its been removed or not on my hawkeye

Gambit

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emissions stuff... its not needed for anything else, hence can be removed

if its been removed then generally the pump will be removed - black cylinder pump assembly sitting below the fuel reg/dampers

if its still running you can usually hear it running the pump for up to 30 seconds on startup

Cambs_Stuart

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From memory the GB270 has the usual issue with knocking shocks and sticking callipers so watch out for those. Other than that it's the usual subaru check list. Make sure belts and rollers have been done, Check state of clutch, look for leaking rocker covers and radiator collapsing.
And check for rust. Radiator carrier is prone, as are sills and arches.

the shreksta

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i will ask mark at thwaites to check whislt he has it. i know its had the egr blanked off.

Jonnys3

See this post and thread Shrek:

https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...l#post11987038

MOTORS S GT

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Its removed on your car, you have the overflow tank where it normally sits.

the shreksta

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lovely stuff,thanks paul

Robbie010

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Hawkeye D

My advice is to buy an already forged one. Be sure to get as much proof, and even speak to the builder to see if they remember the car.


A decent seller will assist with this.


Listen for rear shocks knocking, they all do it.
Forged engines can be noisy when cold, but that's just cold piston slap - a trait of a slightly undersized forged piston to allow for heat expansion once hot.


Stay fairly local....he says...I'm from Hampshire but flew to Scotland to get mine, but there are some waste of time nails out there, it's just how it is.


Mine was a standard Spec D STi, and sure enough my HG's went, so I fully forged it.


342bhp and 410 ft lb makes for a cracking daily.


You can be lucky and get standard examples that are ok, but perhaps budget for some engine work.


I'd love to say my HG's never went, and a standard 2.5 if bulletproof.... but I can't.....I'm another Subaru victim in that respect.

Robbie010

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the shreksta

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what have you done to get 410ftlbs? my fettled vf43 makes 370ftlbs and 350bhp on my hawk

Doc T

My two cents as a Scooby Newbie: my Spec D STi (2.5) is a great daily drive. Mine's had the mother of all filter and fluid services, new rubber all round, undersealing, and a little vagazzle with an access port.

I would recommend advancing the idle, and upping the e-throttle sensitivity. At least - mine was flat and not very responsive until I had a tweak - and now she's really urgent, and quite a handful in second on roundabouts. Upping the psi also makes for easy extra fun.

I have the 'Gucci' spec: 2006 sat-nav (a total joke), leather seats, DCCD, air-con, Bluetooth.

Ready for lots of summer fun as a family car...with benefits.

Hawkeye D

Build was :


ACL bearings
Manley rods
Mahle pistons
Cosworth gaskets
ARP head studs
ACT clutch

Secondary air pump delete
Mocal catch can - very nicely welded piece, and sits right where the air pump was.



No turbo work, standard turbo / air box intake. Still on standard TMIC.


I think the magic was from a very good strong build by Len Carlyon at Subaru 4 You in Newbury, and a Bob Rawle map.


Put those two guys together, and you have a fantastic fast road car.

Tidgy

Sounds like not very good fettlibg tbh, 2 5 torque is nornaly higher than bhp.

the shreksta

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its certainly a good result. standard headers? 3" exhaust?

the shreksta

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scoobyclinic had the turbo checked over when the build was done 2 years ago.

im on standard headers and a 2.5 inch center section perhaps uprated headers and a proper 3" exhaust would help

Tidgy

Ah ignore me, ready it wring way round haha.

Figures wise you get what you get. Turbos gonna be maxed at that level.

the shreksta

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Here's the graph

the shreksta

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yeah true,would have thought i would have more ftlbs though, my old wrx with a 2.0 and vf35/top mount made 354bhp and 365ftlbs

Hawkeye D

Ah, headers yes, up pipe standard. But does have the two Hawk PPP sections fitted.


They were fitted ages before the build.