coilover choice
27 March 2015, 08:43 AM
#5
Its important part on Your car why buy it used?
Above coils will cost You 1.5-2k fitted with geo(would touch bilstein, exe-tc and kw v3)plus You wish to have alk, roll centre kit and drop links (rear are crap).
don't do it without roll centre kit,its massive difference with it.
27 March 2015, 10:24 AM
#7
You don't need a roll centre correction kit unless you lower the car more than 1.5-2cm.
I've only lowered mine about 0.5cm or so.
That's what you need (don't confuse them with Bilsteins sold off the shelf though, the ones below are custom valved and the damping/ride quality was fantastic):
https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...-jamsport.html
Also, as has been said why do you need coilovers?
I've only lowered mine about 0.5cm or so.
That's what you need (don't confuse them with Bilsteins sold off the shelf though, the ones below are custom valved and the damping/ride quality was fantastic):
https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...-jamsport.html
Also, as has been said why do you need coilovers?
Last edited by fpan; 27 March 2015 at 10:31 AM.
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27 March 2015, 11:21 AM
#8
I don't really need coilovers I was offered the teins by a friend so I have been thinking about it. Are they good? (The type flex tiens). My car has coilovers on at the main but the rears are noisey and do my head in so I want to change them. I've looked at kyb ultra sr shocks and tein s tech springs but with fitting and set up they work out not much cheaper than the coilovers I've been offered. They are pretty much new, only done 1500 miles on them. He,s throwing in a set of camber adjust bolts too.. I don't know what to do for best lol
27 March 2015, 11:26 AM
#9
Why is he selling the Teins?
I don't have any experience of the type flex so can't comment.
I've been in 2 cars with Teins, one was OK (monoflex I think?) the other too stiff, "dry" over pot holes for my liking.
I'd get 4 new shocks and OEM springs if I were you.
I don't have any experience of the type flex so can't comment.
I've been in 2 cars with Teins, one was OK (monoflex I think?) the other too stiff, "dry" over pot holes for my liking.
I'd get 4 new shocks and OEM springs if I were you.
27 March 2015, 12:50 PM
#15
KYB's are more of an OEM feel, twins can be quite stiff depending on the spec, I will have a set of mint EXE-TC's back in the next few weeks just waiting on a part as they have been refurbed, I bought them and didn't even get chance to fit them as changed cars.
27 March 2015, 09:25 PM
#20
Hate Tein coilovers
, have always found them quite hard, in fact any Japanese coilover I would stay away from as they will always be too hard for our UK roads.
Ive always been impressed with my Eibach pro street coilovers(share the same design as the KW V1 coilovers) I've owned them on my blob and hawk, they are basic in the sense that they slightly stiffen the suspension(not enough to give you back ache) and you can adjust them in height, but they also wont cost you loads either.
You really need to get changing over to coilovers right as this is the only mod that I know that can really ruin your car, especially when your paying nearly £1000 and then end up hate driving your car due to being uncomfortable and hard!!
, have always found them quite hard, in fact any Japanese coilover I would stay away from as they will always be too hard for our UK roads.Ive always been impressed with my Eibach pro street coilovers(share the same design as the KW V1 coilovers) I've owned them on my blob and hawk, they are basic in the sense that they slightly stiffen the suspension(not enough to give you back ache) and you can adjust them in height, but they also wont cost you loads either.
You really need to get changing over to coilovers right as this is the only mod that I know that can really ruin your car, especially when your paying nearly £1000 and then end up hate driving your car due to being uncomfortable and hard!!
27 March 2015, 11:59 PM
#23
Most so called Subaru specialists will tell people to lower and stiffen the car to make it handle better, unfortunately this only works on smooth race tracks and not real bumpy roads on which I assume you are going to drive your car mostly.
Having tried a few coilovers personally (either in my own car or as a passenger) I wouldn't buy anything unless I tested it myself (which is what I did with my custom made Bilsteins, tried them on a friend's car first).
One man's garbage is another man's treasure.
Last edited by fpan; 28 March 2015 at 12:03 AM.
28 March 2015, 12:09 AM
#24
The spring rate and valving and how the combo works together is what determines how they will work on real roads, not so much the person fitting them.
Most so called Subaru specialists will tell people to lower and stiffen the car to make it handle better, unfortunately this only works on smooth race tracks and not real bumpy roads on which I assume you are going to drive your car mostly.
Having tried a few coilovers personally (either in my own car or as a passenger) I wouldn't buy anything unless I tested it myself (which is what I did with my custom made Bilsteins, tried them on a friend's car first).
One man's garbage is another man's treasure.
Most so called Subaru specialists will tell people to lower and stiffen the car to make it handle better, unfortunately this only works on smooth race tracks and not real bumpy roads on which I assume you are going to drive your car mostly.
Having tried a few coilovers personally (either in my own car or as a passenger) I wouldn't buy anything unless I tested it myself (which is what I did with my custom made Bilsteins, tried them on a friend's car first).
One man's garbage is another man's treasure.
28 March 2015, 12:22 AM
#25
Regarding the tien flex, they are actually the better ones in the tien range, they have a better damping over potholes etc compared to say super streets, but again depends on what spring rate he's got on and if they'd be suitable for you or not.
They do corrode overtime say a couple of years and when they start leaking it's best to replace as rebuild is quite expensive.
Hth.
They do corrode overtime say a couple of years and when they start leaking it's best to replace as rebuild is quite expensive.
Hth.
28 March 2015, 12:33 AM
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Sorry to jump in on this, but what suspension set up would you run if you are looking for lots of compliance over rough surfaces? Talking about bumpy b roads and lanes?
I have standard sti newage setup that could do with a bit of refreshing. I would prefer soft springs with good damping tbh.
I have standard sti newage setup that could do with a bit of refreshing. I would prefer soft springs with good damping tbh.
28 March 2015, 12:37 AM
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I've just picked my car from having HSD Dueltechs along with a Whitline ALK and Rollcentre kit, from the short 20mile ride home(M62) I seems like a nice ride not too hard either. I need to take it on a sprited run 
28 March 2015, 12:41 AM
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Sorry to jump in on this, but what suspension set up would you run if you are looking for lots of compliance over rough surfaces? Talking about bumpy b roads and lanes?
I have standard sti newage setup that could do with a bit of refreshing. I would prefer soft springs with good damping tbh.
I have standard sti newage setup that could do with a bit of refreshing. I would prefer soft springs with good damping tbh.
Kyrlagkitsis "secret" is to use a little more bound and not so much rebound as you want the wheel to follow the road and not stay on the air on bumpy roads.
What this achieved is that the extra bound also played the role of the spring and prevented the car from diving under heavy braking.
The best suspension I've been in that was even more comfortable than my custom made Bilsteins was a S204's one but I imagine the cost would be prohibitive.
Send an e-mail to Jamsport/Kyrlagkitsis otherwise.
P.S. Can a moderator move this under the suspension section?
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28 March 2015, 12:46 AM
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