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06 October 2014, 10:39 PM
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New member after a Scoob! Opinions required!
Hi all,
I'm new here, been having a browse about for a while so thought I'd sign up! I'm in the market for a Scoob and becoming a bit overwhelmed by all the options of different models so I thought I'd get some knowledgeable advice here!
What I've worked out so far is that I want a blobeye or a hawkeye STI just because they're the best looking models IMO and both kinda fit within my top end budget. I realise the blobs have a 2.0l turbo and the Hawks have a 2.5l turbo is there any particular advantages/disadvantages? Also I notice the later blobs are a "widetrack" model with a DCCD... Is this seen as a favourable model over the previous earlier ones? I'm also hoping to scout a PPP variant for the added extras.
Aside from that, I'm clueless... There's obviously other models within the two shapes but is there any others I should be looking out for? I've got my heart set on blue so that kind of rules out the RB320's too...! Any help will be appreciated :-)
My budget is £10-12.5k and the car will be used for every day use.
I'm new here, been having a browse about for a while so thought I'd sign up! I'm in the market for a Scoob and becoming a bit overwhelmed by all the options of different models so I thought I'd get some knowledgeable advice here!
What I've worked out so far is that I want a blobeye or a hawkeye STI just because they're the best looking models IMO and both kinda fit within my top end budget. I realise the blobs have a 2.0l turbo and the Hawks have a 2.5l turbo is there any particular advantages/disadvantages? Also I notice the later blobs are a "widetrack" model with a DCCD... Is this seen as a favourable model over the previous earlier ones? I'm also hoping to scout a PPP variant for the added extras.
Aside from that, I'm clueless... There's obviously other models within the two shapes but is there any others I should be looking out for? I've got my heart set on blue so that kind of rules out the RB320's too...! Any help will be appreciated :-)
My budget is £10-12.5k and the car will be used for every day use.
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06 October 2014, 10:45 PM
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Welcome and.......
The following is all my opinion and will be argued but the most unbiased advice I can give is to go out there and test drive the cars you like and see how you feel about them.
The 2.5 engine has a lot of failures which is well documented. The Jdm models go for more money for a very good reason.
My personal opinion would be to look out for a Jdm blob. That way you'd end up with the best car for your money.
You'll need to tell us a little bit more on your budget and insurance capabilities but hopefully more will follow with some 'good' advice.
The following is all my opinion and will be argued but the most unbiased advice I can give is to go out there and test drive the cars you like and see how you feel about them.
The 2.5 engine has a lot of failures which is well documented. The Jdm models go for more money for a very good reason.
My personal opinion would be to look out for a Jdm blob. That way you'd end up with the best car for your money.
You'll need to tell us a little bit more on your budget and insurance capabilities but hopefully more will follow with some 'good' advice.
06 October 2014, 10:47 PM
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My budget is around £10-£12.5k and insurance is no problem as I have full NCB and am 26. I've looked in to quotes for Prodrive STI's and all seems to be good :-)
What benefits do the JDM models offer? I've seen a few for sale but not noticed any difference in spec?
What benefits do the JDM models offer? I've seen a few for sale but not noticed any difference in spec?
06 October 2014, 11:30 PM
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The long and short of it is that JDMs have an engine that is not only proven performance-wise but doesn't have any question marks about it. (See sticky at top of 'ScoobyNet General' page '2.5 engine failures' iIrc).
People factor in a few thousand for the possibility that the engine will go. Since that doesn't happen with a JDM (people don't feel the need to make that assumption) JDMs are more expensive.
Don't forget however that you can have a dog of a respected car/model.
If anything takes your fancy put it up on here and get loads of advice on what to check for, questions to ask of the seller etc.
06 October 2014, 11:37 PM
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Thanks for the info dude... I never realised the 2.5's were so prone to failure 😱
Is there anything the JDM models lack over the UK spec cars at all? I'm also a little sceptical about import motors as their history can often be a little vague and unaccounted for!
Here are a couple of links of a few models that caught my eye recently... Unfortunately they have all sold but these are the kind of specs I've been looking at...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/subaru/impreza-sti/subaru-impreza-sti-type-uk-dccd-widetrack-model-only-20-000-miles/2855482
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/subaru/impreza-sti/--31000-miles--ppp-subaru-impreza-sti-type-uk/986331
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/subaru/impreza-sti/subaru-impreza-wrx-sti-type-uk/2863369
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/subaru/impreza-sti/05-55-impreza-sti-hawkeye-absolutely-immaculate-showcar-example-with-only-36-000-miles-and-fsh---sorry-now-sold/2842221
Is there anything the JDM models lack over the UK spec cars at all? I'm also a little sceptical about import motors as their history can often be a little vague and unaccounted for!
Here are a couple of links of a few models that caught my eye recently... Unfortunately they have all sold but these are the kind of specs I've been looking at...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/subaru/impreza-sti/subaru-impreza-sti-type-uk-dccd-widetrack-model-only-20-000-miles/2855482
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/subaru/impreza-sti/--31000-miles--ppp-subaru-impreza-sti-type-uk/986331
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/subaru/impreza-sti/subaru-impreza-wrx-sti-type-uk/2863369
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/subaru/impreza-sti/05-55-impreza-sti-hawkeye-absolutely-immaculate-showcar-example-with-only-36-000-miles-and-fsh---sorry-now-sold/2842221
07 October 2014, 12:03 AM
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Generally speaking JDMs have more features than UK - rear windscreen wiper is one that springs to mind.
Possibly powered folding door mirrors (?).
The Japanese are more fussy about their standards, so the cars are made to cater for that, hence 'higher spec'.
When buying a car as much service history as possible is useful, if not a major consideration. I'd say with an import you simply add things like date of import, importer, UK remap (lower RON here, so vital) and clock change (to miles, not km) to the list.
With your budget you can afford to be a little choosy, and you're probably in the realms of having a look a cars from dealers with a good reputation.
Possibly powered folding door mirrors (?).
The Japanese are more fussy about their standards, so the cars are made to cater for that, hence 'higher spec'.
When buying a car as much service history as possible is useful, if not a major consideration. I'd say with an import you simply add things like date of import, importer, UK remap (lower RON here, so vital) and clock change (to miles, not km) to the list.
With your budget you can afford to be a little choosy, and you're probably in the realms of having a look a cars from dealers with a good reputation.
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07 October 2014, 02:48 PM
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Welcome to the forum.
This is the third one today I think on this subject, must all the hubub about how bad diesel fumes are, or that impreza's are great cars?
3 different types to look at, and they all have pro's and cons.
2.0 UK/ 2.0 JDM/ 2.5UK.
I have owned a blobeye 2.0 WRX and now have a blobeye 2.0JDM STI.
My experience is STI impreza's are great as second cars, because you worry less about the costs of running it, which will be painful if you are running about in them all the time.
So if its a daily all the time car I would look at a 2.0 WRX. The reason is it is easier to drive, and you can get some reasonable fuel economy. I would certainly consider an exhaust upgrade and some re-mapping to release more power and better performance all round.
I have only had a JDM STI 2.0 not a UK one.
The JDM STI really comes on over 3000 revs and it is intense the more it goes up the rev range, it just flies, you have to have your wits about you when it gets up to that rev range. It is the full performance car experience, but in a practical 4 door guise.
It is also great to drive around pootling about, cornering and bends especially, in fact this is more fun than the power thing, it is very responsive. Not such a good cruising car, as the gear ratios are shorter than any of the other impreza's, it is really designed to get up to speed quickly and stay there.
So with this in mind, it is not a relaxing drive. But you being 26 you probably dont want 'relaxing' drive. Just be careful, because it is high octane stuff, when you get up the rev range, and you need to be sensible about it.
Good luck anyway and keep asking the questions.
This is the third one today I think on this subject, must all the hubub about how bad diesel fumes are, or that impreza's are great cars?
3 different types to look at, and they all have pro's and cons.
2.0 UK/ 2.0 JDM/ 2.5UK.
I have owned a blobeye 2.0 WRX and now have a blobeye 2.0JDM STI.
My experience is STI impreza's are great as second cars, because you worry less about the costs of running it, which will be painful if you are running about in them all the time.
So if its a daily all the time car I would look at a 2.0 WRX. The reason is it is easier to drive, and you can get some reasonable fuel economy. I would certainly consider an exhaust upgrade and some re-mapping to release more power and better performance all round.
I have only had a JDM STI 2.0 not a UK one.
The JDM STI really comes on over 3000 revs and it is intense the more it goes up the rev range, it just flies, you have to have your wits about you when it gets up to that rev range. It is the full performance car experience, but in a practical 4 door guise.
It is also great to drive around pootling about, cornering and bends especially, in fact this is more fun than the power thing, it is very responsive. Not such a good cruising car, as the gear ratios are shorter than any of the other impreza's, it is really designed to get up to speed quickly and stay there.
So with this in mind, it is not a relaxing drive. But you being 26 you probably dont want 'relaxing' drive. Just be careful, because it is high octane stuff, when you get up the rev range, and you need to be sensible about it.
Good luck anyway and keep asking the questions.
07 October 2014, 03:47 PM
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Similar questions being asked...again, supporting the census for Blob JDM STI's (or Hawk JDM STI's if your wallet can afford it)
https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...a-new-car.html
There are a lot differences, to name a few
DCCD on pre 2004 cars, standard on all after
Xenon headlights
Rear Wiper (the best thing ever on an Impreza)
Auto Intercooler spray
Nitraded crank
Twinscroll turbo charger (quick spool, no lag, torquey)
Electric power fold mirrors
Defi Style sweep clocks
Higher red line
Tinted rear privacy glass
Clutch start and reversing beep
Shorter gear ratios
the standard red/pink JDM STI suspension is excellent and dosent wallow as much as the UK spec ones (but still suffers creaky rear shock syndrome)
As an everyday, point to point car, it is far superior, but its quick and youll get used to changing gear quickly, instead of a UK car, where all the boost comes on at once later in the rev range.
Drive them both, you will see the difference, and you will know which one to purchase
https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...a-new-car.html
There are a lot differences, to name a few
DCCD on pre 2004 cars, standard on all after
Xenon headlights
Rear Wiper (the best thing ever on an Impreza)
Auto Intercooler spray
Nitraded crank
Twinscroll turbo charger (quick spool, no lag, torquey)
Electric power fold mirrors
Defi Style sweep clocks
Higher red line
Tinted rear privacy glass
Clutch start and reversing beep
Shorter gear ratios
the standard red/pink JDM STI suspension is excellent and dosent wallow as much as the UK spec ones (but still suffers creaky rear shock syndrome)
As an everyday, point to point car, it is far superior, but its quick and youll get used to changing gear quickly, instead of a UK car, where all the boost comes on at once later in the rev range.
Drive them both, you will see the difference, and you will know which one to purchase
07 October 2014, 05:42 PM
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Thanks for your reply Oliver, I always have to have the best available model of whatever car I buy and I'm a massive speed freak and petrol head... Running costs are not a problem for me as I fully appreciate these factors before buying a car! I work within a couple of miles of my house so although it will be used daily I won't put huge mileage on the car! The STI model is definitely what I'm looking for. As for the revs and being lively... This is definitely something I'm used to! I had a '98 Civic hatch which i done a ground up build of which had a 225hp 1.6 DOHC JDM vtec engine which revved to 11,000 so I'm very fond of the revs :-D the car also weighed around 850kgs so it wasn't slow! My current car being a 3.2l v6 TT coupe it has a lot of grunt but is a bit more of a 'comfy cruiser' to drive which is what I'm hoping to get away from... I need that raw power with that big kick of boost!
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I've found a garage a couple of hours away from me that has a small selection of JDM and UK spec Impreza's, albeit mainly blobeyes but I'm thinking of taking a trip up to drive a couple. I like a lot of the extras the JDM cars seem to have over the UK models... Not too keen on the rear wiper and the tinted glass though (just my preference) 🙊 is it true that the JDM models don't have central locking does anyone know?
I've also decided if I go for a Hawkeye an absolutely must is to swap out those hideous rear light clusters for blob eye units 😂👍
07 October 2014, 05:55 PM
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What's a Spec C?
I think I have "de-wipered" every single car I have ever owned 😂 and I can honestly say I'd 100% do the same thing if I buy a JDM Scoob... I have genuinely never thought "damn, I wish I had a rear screen wiper" 🙈
I think I have "de-wipered" every single car I have ever owned 😂 and I can honestly say I'd 100% do the same thing if I buy a JDM Scoob... I have genuinely never thought "damn, I wish I had a rear screen wiper" 🙈
07 October 2014, 06:08 PM
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Yeah pretty much... '98 civic hatch, '01 Audi S3 Quattro Tubro, '04 Civic Type R and now my '04 Audi TT V6 Quattro.
Lol sorry but I just took a look at a JDM blobeye and that rear wiper is f*cking ugly! I don't even think I'd drive a car off the forecourt with that thing on it 😂
Lol sorry but I just took a look at a JDM blobeye and that rear wiper is f*cking ugly! I don't even think I'd drive a car off the forecourt with that thing on it 😂
07 October 2014, 07:57 PM
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Hi all,
I'm new here, been having a browse about for a while so thought I'd sign up! I'm in the market for a Scoob and becoming a bit overwhelmed by all the options of different models so I thought I'd get some knowledgeable advice here!
What I've worked out so far is that I want a blobeye or a hawkeye STI just because they're the best looking models IMO and both kinda fit within my top end budget. I realise the blobs have a 2.0l turbo and the Hawks have a 2.5l turbo is there any particular advantages/disadvantages? Also I notice the later blobs are a "widetrack" model with a DCCD... Is this seen as a favourable model over the previous earlier ones? I'm also hoping to scout a PPP variant for the added extras.
Aside from that, I'm clueless... There's obviously other models within the two shapes but is there any others I should be looking out for? I've got my heart set on blue so that kind of rules out the RB320's too...! Any help will be appreciated :-)
My budget is £10-12.5k and the car will be used for every day use.
I'm new here, been having a browse about for a while so thought I'd sign up! I'm in the market for a Scoob and becoming a bit overwhelmed by all the options of different models so I thought I'd get some knowledgeable advice here!
What I've worked out so far is that I want a blobeye or a hawkeye STI just because they're the best looking models IMO and both kinda fit within my top end budget. I realise the blobs have a 2.0l turbo and the Hawks have a 2.5l turbo is there any particular advantages/disadvantages? Also I notice the later blobs are a "widetrack" model with a DCCD... Is this seen as a favourable model over the previous earlier ones? I'm also hoping to scout a PPP variant for the added extras.
Aside from that, I'm clueless... There's obviously other models within the two shapes but is there any others I should be looking out for? I've got my heart set on blue so that kind of rules out the RB320's too...! Any help will be appreciated :-)
My budget is £10-12.5k and the car will be used for every day use.
Job sorted.
http://www.monzasport.com/used-car-s...eza-saloon-416
07 October 2014, 09:38 PM
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Is it advertised anywhere I could check it out mate?
I've found a garage a couple of hours away from me that has a small selection of JDM and UK spec Impreza's, albeit mainly blobeyes but I'm thinking of taking a trip up to drive a couple. I like a lot of the extras the JDM cars seem to have over the UK models... Not too keen on the rear wiper and the tinted glass though (just my preference) 🙊 is it true that the JDM models don't have central locking does anyone know?
I've also decided if I go for a Hawkeye an absolutely must is to swap out those hideous rear light clusters for blob eye units 😂👍
I've found a garage a couple of hours away from me that has a small selection of JDM and UK spec Impreza's, albeit mainly blobeyes but I'm thinking of taking a trip up to drive a couple. I like a lot of the extras the JDM cars seem to have over the UK models... Not too keen on the rear wiper and the tinted glass though (just my preference) 🙊 is it true that the JDM models don't have central locking does anyone know?
I've also decided if I go for a Hawkeye an absolutely must is to swap out those hideous rear light clusters for blob eye units 😂👍
the pic below has old wheels and headlights have been tinted
i think mileage is 43 or 45 im not sure havnt driven it for a while
loadsa whatsapp pics if you fire your mobile number over, Rich
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Have you actually driven a sti yet be it a jdm or UK spec?
You have by the sounds of it tuned a few cars in your time but an 11000 rpm 225 bhp Honda with **** all torque isn't gonna be in any league to a remapped jdm sti
I suggest you drive both versions and see how you feel
Watching videos of scoobs and driving / owning one is a different game
As you get bored of the power fast and the money to tuning ratio is silly
Steve
Have you actually driven a sti yet be it a jdm or UK spec?
You have by the sounds of it tuned a few cars in your time but an 11000 rpm 225 bhp Honda with **** all torque isn't gonna be in any league to a remapped jdm sti
I suggest you drive both versions and see how you feel
Watching videos of scoobs and driving / owning one is a different game
As you get bored of the power fast and the money to tuning ratio is silly
Steve
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hi mate car is not advertised as yet but will be soon as i just cant see me driving it again (currently banned) so may aswell get rid
the pic below has old wheels and headlights have been tinted
i think mileage is 43 or 45 im not sure havnt driven it for a while
loadsa whatsapp pics if you fire your mobile number over, Rich
the pic below has old wheels and headlights have been tinted
i think mileage is 43 or 45 im not sure havnt driven it for a while
loadsa whatsapp pics if you fire your mobile number over, Rich
Nice ...
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Have you actually driven a sti yet be it a jdm or UK spec?
You have by the sounds of it tuned a few cars in your time but an 11000 rpm 225 bhp Honda with **** all torque isn't gonna be in any league to a remapped jdm sti
I suggest you drive both versions and see how you feel
Watching videos of scoobs and driving / owning one is a different game
As you get bored of the power fast and the money to tuning ratio is silly
Steve
Have you actually driven a sti yet be it a jdm or UK spec?
You have by the sounds of it tuned a few cars in your time but an 11000 rpm 225 bhp Honda with **** all torque isn't gonna be in any league to a remapped jdm sti
I suggest you drive both versions and see how you feel
Watching videos of scoobs and driving / owning one is a different game
As you get bored of the power fast and the money to tuning ratio is silly
Steve
I want to find a 2.5 hawk to try that out as well as if I'm honest I prefer the looks of the hawks but don't want to buy one just based on that!
And don't judge my Civic based on what you've heard about torqueless Honda's... It used to slay a few STI's on a regular basis
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Last of the blobs and on a 56 plate sounds a keeper
Standard even with a PPP isn't gonna feel that good like you say the lag once it gets a remap it will be a he'll of a lot better
I know all about Hondas used to have a rotrex supercharged dc5 swapped it for my first blob sti
Ran that to 470 then broke that and got my 2.5 hawk sti
A lot of engine failure with the 2.5 but touch wood mines going well
The sound is a bit different but that's because of the equal length headers but with a vf36 or 37 your torque will nearly match your bhp
Which on a UK STI won't happen
Steve
Standard even with a PPP isn't gonna feel that good like you say the lag once it gets a remap it will be a he'll of a lot better
I know all about Hondas used to have a rotrex supercharged dc5 swapped it for my first blob sti
Ran that to 470 then broke that and got my 2.5 hawk sti
A lot of engine failure with the 2.5 but touch wood mines going well
The sound is a bit different but that's because of the equal length headers but with a vf36 or 37 your torque will nearly match your bhp
Which on a UK STI won't happen
Steve
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