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Old 28 January 2012, 07:12 PM
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Looking around for a tow car at the moment, and a 5 series might well work.

However, it'd be nice if the car was "fun" when it wasn't towing, so could an m5 be used for towing? I'm thinking E39 shape or similar.

The use would be to tow a car trailer with the impreza on it.

Problem is I can't seem to find the max towing weight for an M5 - realistically I'd need around 1800kg I'd have thought.
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Originally Posted by Henrik
Looking around for a tow car at the moment, and a 5 series might well work.

However, it'd be nice if the car was "fun" when it wasn't towing, so could an m5 be used for towing? I'm thinking E39 shape or similar.

The use would be to tow a car trailer with the impreza on it.

Problem is I can't seem to find the max towing weight for an M5 - realistically I'd need around 1800kg I'd have thought.



Why don't you just drive the Impreza to wherever you are going rather than towing it?
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because it wont pass an MOT real soon now, plus I'm worried that it will break on a track on the other side of the country etc etc. Having independent transport would be ideal, although I may just start renting a car transporter for track days instead.

The M5 seems like an ideal family saloon otherwise... Perhaps a bit heavy on the running costs, but can't think of much else that offer the same kind of performance for similar'ish money.
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It would tow it not a problem. But I be suprised if it would be legall How heavy is the car and trailer your be using ?
Old 29 January 2012, 10:14 AM
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defo not legal. would think legal towing weight on a e39 be about 1100kg.

your car about 1100kg alone if a track car and trailer 800-1000.
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think jeep be needed.

maybe if dont mind petrol nice 4.4L Bmw X5?
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Originally Posted by LegacySTi
defo not legal. would think legal towing weight on a e39 be about 1100kg.

your car about 1100kg alone if a track car and trailer 800-1000.
That was my thought most good quality trailers are 1200 ish. An older trailer can be even heavier. Vosa are getting hotter on pulling cars towing trailers.

I'm afraid relisticly your in need of a 4x4
Old 29 January 2012, 01:33 PM
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E39 M5 only available as a LHD too.
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Get yourself a van for towing.
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Boo my m5 hopes dashed.
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
E39 M5 only available as a LHD too.
Plenty of E39 & even E34 RHD cars out there!
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Originally Posted by 500
Plenty of E39 & even E34 RHD cars out there!
Exactly what I was thinking, with regards to the E39 anyway
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My mistake I had touring/estate in mind for some reason!
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
My mistake I had touring/estate in mind for some reason!
I thought the M5 touring was only available as the E34?

Anyway, maybe something like a 540i Touring would work instead. According to Parkers they're allowed to tow 1900kg braked, which should be plenty for a 1300kg car + trailer IMO.

Granted, it wouldn't be an M5 and it would have that hateful slush-o-matic gearbox, but at least it'd sound like a V8 and have a bit of poke. The V8 itch is one I've wanted to scratch for a long time, and with needing a family car, it seems like too good an opportunity to pass up
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Originally Posted by Henrik
I thought the M5 touring was only available as the E34?

Anyway, maybe something like a 540i Touring would work instead. According to Parkers they're allowed to tow 1900kg braked, which should be plenty for a 1300kg car + trailer IMO.
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Granted, it wouldn't be an M5 and it would have that hateful slush-o-matic gearbox, but at least it'd sound like a V8 and have a bit of poke. The V8 itch is one I've wanted to scratch for a long time, and with needing a family car, it seems like too good an opportunity to pass up

How heavy is your trailer ? And car not a ruff guess an acuraty weight ? As vosa would take you to a waybridge
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Dam phone !

Then the fin is around £60 a kilo your over. Unless you have a light weight single axel trailer and a scooby made of carbon your going to be at the 2100 don't forget to take into account fuel and spares

Also does your lisence cover you for towing ?
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in the stages of changing my license over to a UK one so I can take the B+E test.. The B license is completely useless of course.

AFAIK the brian james clubman trailers are about 500kg, so it'd be right on the limit, assuming I can get the car light enough. Spares etc could go in the tow car, there'd still be a couple of 100 kg of weight to play with in the car itself.

The above doesn't sound ideal, though, which is a right shame... I was hoping I could get away with a fairly sizeable saloon, but you're right, it's a bit too close to comfort unfortunately.

I might have to just get myself a "normal" car and then rent a ford transit style transporter when I'm on track days (realistically, it'd be less than 5 times a year anyway, so not like I'm off racing every weekend).

A van is out of the question, I'd have to get divorced before that happened, and even a 4x4 is hard enough to get "collateral agreement" on...
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Originally Posted by Henrik
in the stages of changing my license over to a UK one so I can take the B+E test.. The B license is completely useless of course.

AFAIK the brian james clubman trailers are about 500kg, so it'd be right on the limit, assuming I can get the car light enough. Spares etc could go in the tow car, there'd still be a couple of 100 kg of weight to play with in the car itself.

The above doesn't sound ideal, though, which is a right shame... I was hoping I could get away with a fairly sizeable saloon, but you're right, it's a bit too close to comfort unfortunately.

I might have to just get myself a "normal" car and then rent a ford transit style transporter when I'm on track days (realistically, it'd be less than 5 times a year anyway, so not like I'm off racing every weekend).

A van is out of the question, I'd have to get divorced before that happened, and even a 4x4 is hard enough to get "collateral agreement" on...
Re towing.

You need to know the braked and un-braked towing weights. This refers to the trailer having brakes or not. The brakes are activated by the tow coupling compressing when the car brakes causing the trailer brakes to activate.

braked towing weights are always higher due to the trailer having its own brakes and reducing the risk of jackknifing and or pushing the car along when stopping.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85227

One thing - is there room to fit a tow hitch to the car, does/will it foul the exhaust???
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...t=859105&mid=0

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If its only 5 times a year I'd buy a normal car then rent a tow Veichle and trailer. Don't know we're you are but around here the trailer place rents tow veichles too. Just a thought
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Originally Posted by LegacySTi
defo not legal. would think legal towing weight on a e39 be about 1100kg.

your car about 1100kg alone if a track car and trailer 800-1000.
Wrong.

Max braked towing weight of e39 5 series are huge:

M5 is 1800kg http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/review...on-1996/16093/

540 and 530 is 2000kg!! http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/review...oon-1996/20668


Although check your driver's licence's entitlement...you may need to upgrade it to tow that kind of weight (I don't, but then I have an old school paper one )


Edit to add. BMW removable tow hitches replace the inner bumper 'impact absorbers', so a steel frame bolts betweeen the chasis and bumper. The only thing that protrudes is teh actual socket for the tow ball: Its the black metal part in this picture:



I know its a E46 but the E39 bar fits in the exact same way.


Oh and the reverse sensors hate it.....so make sure its a heavy duty removable one.

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