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Old 11 April 2002, 09:29 AM
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Someone selling this at work on our intranet. Never seen it, but don't fancy taking it on (in a straight line of course)


This Nova GTE looks completely standard.... The difference is
2.3 Calibra Turbo Engine
Upgraded brakes (of course).
The suspension (Olins) is only slightly lowered but completely up graded.
Lighter than your average Nova.
All completed by a fully qualified engineer.
The price for this unique motor car is: £5500
Over £10,000 spent.
To believe it you have to see it.
Old 11 April 2002, 09:54 AM
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2.3 ? hmmm...... thats got to be stroked for that displacement.. any idea who did the work ?

Old 11 April 2002, 09:56 AM
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can that fit in a nova? why not just buy a calibra? nova are crap!!
Old 11 April 2002, 09:59 AM
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Why buy a calibra then they are crap too get a decent motor in the first place then tune it
Old 11 April 2002, 10:06 AM
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Sparks - don't know who did the work, but the seller has moved here from Whiteley so likely to be someone over there.
I'd ask, but don't want to show interest in a Vauxhall. Got to keep my street cred up
Old 11 April 2002, 10:27 AM
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paulpalmer, i agree with ya, but he obviously wanted a 2.3. he is a nova driver mind you.

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Old 11 April 2002, 11:06 AM
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And you know EVERY nova is faster than a scoob
Old 11 April 2002, 11:24 AM
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2.3ltr!!! hmmmmm. Torque Steer extreme. All sorts of broken bits.
Old 11 April 2002, 11:40 AM
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Calibra Turbo engines fit into novas, astras, corsas ( even minis!!). Waste of time though... too much weight, loads of wheelspin and even more torque steer. The only way you'd make it worthwhile is cut in a 4x4 system or launch control & traction control.. kinda expensive..



Old 11 April 2002, 01:07 PM
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Calibra V6 engines fit in Nova's too!

Look what my mates done...




It took a "lot" of work to sort it all out, but it is the only one in the UK.

Oh... it's quite nippy too!
Old 11 April 2002, 01:08 PM
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how can the engine be too much weight for an astra?? they made many 2.0 16v astras didnt they plus not in this county a mrk 3 astra was availible with the 2.0 16v turbo engine fitted!! 200ts i think it was called and it had a LSD!!!!..
Cant comment on 2.0 in nova/corsa as never been in one!

Nothing is faster than an Impreza!!!! yawn yawn!!! boring boring!!
Old 11 April 2002, 01:24 PM
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whats the stats on it it must be quick!!!???
Old 11 April 2002, 06:21 PM
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i used to have a Astra Gsi 16v and that used to do 60 in 7.6 and 137 mph, that was with 150 bhp, i recon the engine would have around 200 bhp if not a little more, do 60 in mid 6's probably but as i said they didnt bring them out here, they did in south africa and maybe germany but im not sure!
Old 11 April 2002, 06:40 PM
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Here's a shocker...... Scooby drivers knocking other cars

I might be offended if I cared

Just be warned when you see any Cavalier/Calibra turbos or any car with these engines in them and you try to take them on nowadays as you might be surprised..... A few ppl in the know will get what I mean


Old 16 April 2002, 01:27 PM
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no i havnt got a scooby mate, not sure i want one yet, just stating that there isnt anything faster according to you lot!!! LOL yawn yawn
Old 16 April 2002, 01:44 PM
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Thats the problem with the majority of Impreza owners - they think the Scoob is invincible, and anything other than 4WD is crap.

Well give me my RWD MR2 anyday of the week. Much more fun to drive, needs more skill to keep it on the road and can surprise a lot of Scoob owners - just ask the guy from The Big One last weekend in the MY01 that couldnt keep up with me over the Snake Pass

At the end of the day a standard Scoob only has 215bhp - not major power really, though they are fast - dont get me wrong.

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Old 16 April 2002, 01:47 PM
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Before you lot moan I slammed 2.0 turbo novas etc.. but havent got a scoob.. and I know of at least one corsa 2.0 turbo that'd kick *alot* of ****!

Oh and a cav ecotec.. with a few mods... richie knows what I'm talking about
Old 16 April 2002, 04:35 PM
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The 2L Novas obviously lose out on traction but there are a few that can do sub 6s to 60 and I've seen a 2L corsa do 13.6s 1/4.A mate of mine had a really sheddy one which stood him at about £1500 and it flew.The handling was pretty good as well to say it was front heavy.There have been that many conversions done now that most of the problems like torque steer and chassis cracking have been ironed out by tuners like Courteney.I don't drive one by the way-it's a nova for christsake:P
Old 16 April 2002, 04:50 PM
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used to have a nova.. put a sri130 engine and f16box in a nova and it would probably beat my scoob... if scoobs are quick and good.. why the hell are nearly all modified? crap brakes... crap suspension.. .. interwarmer...

David
Old 16 April 2002, 05:24 PM
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I drive a gtir-same problems as scoob when standard.
Old 16 April 2002, 05:44 PM
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About a year ago we were having a bit of a play after coming back from a day at the seaside (us in MY98, mate on CBR600).
Anyway came behind a slow, slow (50mph) car who took an age to overtake somebody else driving really slow. While waiting for the guy to pull over a Maxed looking Astra pulled up behind us.
When the slow car pulled in all three of us gunned it. The bike pissed off as expected but the Astra fell back. We guessed that he wasn't trying or his car just wasn't fast.
The next day my mate on the bike came across the Astra in a petrol station. The driver said that the car was 200bhp calibra turbo conversion that he had just bought. Apparantly he was trying to catch us in the Subaru but couldn't keep up. He was rather gutted
Just goes to show that claimed figures for conversions don't always mirror on-road performance.


[Edited by Mark Champion - 4/16/2002 5:46:16 PM]
Old 16 April 2002, 06:15 PM
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That 2.3 turbo nova is a Courtney job, my mate is well into his vauxhalls and he saw it at courtneys, supposed to be a bit of a sleeper.

RICH D- is that V6 nova of your m8s from Macc way, Has twin pipes, dodgy fitting bonnet and finished in a TVR colour.

[Edited by mk2escortcossie - 4/16/2002 6:16:26 PM]
Old 16 April 2002, 07:07 PM
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The original Vauxhall 16V engine, not the Ectoek, is a belter. Designed with Cosworth help and can push out a dead easy 180bhp on twin 45s rather than the poor fuel injection system as standard. Makes for a might quick car. it might only be a Vauxhall but its going to be very quick in a straight line.

In a Nova would definitely give a Uk Scoob a very hard time and a turbo conversion from Courtney would **** all over my Uk Scoob.. I know.


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Old 16 April 2002, 08:45 PM
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The trouble with all these modified novas is that there aint any air circulating round the engine and as such that means higher running temps.
Nova's with 2ltr turbo lumps will be quick in a straight line, come to a corner though and they are history, too much weight on the front, not alot on the rear so would step out easily and be squashed
There is a 2.5v6 nova round here somewhere, totally undrivable, it has soooooooooooooo much torque steer and wheel spins in 4th so no traction.... but in the end, its still a nova, vauxhall shed etc
Id rather still have a car with just a modified engine, possibly the same engine the car came with so you know its going to be ok power wise etc and one that doesnt want to put you thru hedges cos its soooooooo nose heavy

Tony
(ps my scoob is indestructable etc etc etc )
Old 16 April 2002, 10:46 PM
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I thought this had died LOL..... Seems to happen to a lot of threads I post in


The original Vauxhall 16V engine, not the Ectoek, is a belter. Designed with Cosworth help
The same engine is used in the turbo version that was put in Cavalier/Calibra turbos from 1993.

You are right. The engine is undisputably one of the best 16v engine ever made. End of discussion.

Rumour has it that Cosworth designed it as a Turbo engine to begin with but Vauxhall didnt want to make them so they used it as a N/A engine only releasing its full potential some 5 years later with the 204BHP Cavalier/Calibra Turbos.


My last comment about being aware of these cars now is due to the tuning available as of last year bringing these cars from 204BHP to well over 350BHP RELIABLY.

Recent runs at Santa Pod and Crail brought in sub 13.5 second 1/4 mile times and thats from the 315BHP versions (13.72 from 290BHP version).

A lot of ppl still dismiss the Cavalier/Calibra Turbos as cop-outs and poor performers, a lot of which has to do with the complete farce of tuning available for these cars.

Now the tuning is available..... Took its time and, because of this, ppl still dont rate the cars........ Makes it all the more interesting when the "under dog" comes thru




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Sorry that v6 is not the only one in the country. Ive seen 2, and i absolutely hate novas and avoid them like the plague.
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raising an old but popular topic again....

my 2l turbo'd ka, about 240 bhp with about 290 lbs/ft of torque has all the problems mentioned above - torque steer and heavy front end, etc but i still managed to blitz some proper sports bikes along the twisty A18 between the A16 and Laceby.

got in amongst them, let them know i was up for it and took them on the first 90 degree right hander and then went...!

could brake later, had more rubber on the floor thru the corners and enough acceleration out of them to stop the bikes getting close...!

little modded cars have come a long way in the last few years, ( but yes, if i had the money then i would cossie lump and 4WD my ka )

[Edited by fastka - 6/30/2003 7:20:10 AM]
Old 29 June 2003, 08:39 PM
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Was gonna say the same, have seen at least 2 V6 novas knocking around, also a V6 astra.

Was toying with the idea of finding a crashed laguna V6 and seeing if the engine would drop in ok
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the vauxhaull 2.0 lump can be taken out to 2196 quiet easily, the extra 100cc who knows, I have seen 2 X 2.5 V6 conversions in to a nova & the little sods fly.

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