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Old 27 May 2008, 10:48 PM
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Was looking at a Focus ST500 yesterday priced at £17995 at a local ford dealer,I thiught they might be keen to deal comming upto the end of the month and with the current market but offered nothing off the asking price.So considering the fact that it has 1500 miles and is the old model I walked,only to be told when I was walking out of the showroom that if I could make a make my mind up if I wanted it or not as there was "another branch" on the phone with the sales manager looking to see if the car was still available.Funny how the car has sat there for a month but when someone looks at it the branches are falling over themselves looking or this model,cant believe salesmen still come out with **** lines like this.
Old 28 May 2008, 09:17 AM
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that would be lyndsay ford for you?
I also looked at an ST back in Jan £13995 they told me that they were only making £250 on the car and couldnt drop another penny. yeah right.

They also told me my 02 STI was worth 9k which was interesting as i had a glasses guide in my pocket telling me it was worth more.

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Old 28 May 2008, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by markymark34
They also told me my 02 STI was worth 9k which was interesting as i had a glasses guide in my pocket telling me it was worth more.

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Ahh Glasses Guide, it really is funny how many people take their valuations as gospel when trading their cars in
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Ahh Glasses Guide, it really is funny how many people take their valuations as gospel when trading their cars in
my point was, his valuation came from glasses guide which didnt match with mine which was interesting seeing it was the same book.

What else would you rather people do? Its always weighted in favour of the trader, if the going price is higher than glasses you still get offered glasses prices, so trader makes more money. If the going price is less than glasses you get offered less.
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Ahh I see, I didn't know that the salesman said that he had got his valuation from Glasses Guide.

Of course part exchange prices are always weighted in favour of the trader, its how we all make money!! I personally have never even bothered using Glasses Guide to value any cars, I find it much more accurate to look at how the market for the particular vehicle is at that time by doing a little bit of research, looking at existing adverts etc. Ok its not as quick as just reading a figure from a book, but touch wood it hasn't steered me too far wrong in the last three years!
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Glasses guide is only a guide. A ford dealer doesn't want a subaru so he will add an insurance policy in there so he know's he can get rid of it. It all depends on what you are buying of course.

My first job was a car salesman at a Skoda dealer in 2001. We took delivery of an Octavia 4x4 estate as soon as it came out. It was nearly £17k IIRC which was £1500 more than the vRS hatch, and £2k more than a 1.8T elegance estate. So it was a lot, but we felt Derbyshire folk would love such a car. Sadly it didn't sell for months and months. The first genuine sniff we had, the guy had a high mileage white hyundai lantra. He had been offered little for it else where but we knew a buyer was a buyer and loaded up the part exchange value to £1200+ more than glasses guide just to sell the thing.

He bought it of course. Had the car been a vRS though, that we could sell every day of the week we would have offered 10% less than glasses as all we would have done it put it through the auction at a low reserve [which we did anyway.]
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What is the ST500 anyway?
Theres one up the road from me that has that badge. I thought he'd just made the badge himself?!
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Originally Posted by Fantom
What is the ST500 anyway?
Theres one up the road from me that has that badge. I thought he'd just made the badge himself?!
Here you go mate Ford Focus | First Drives | Car Reviews | Auto Express
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Originally Posted by markymark34
that would be lyndsay ford for you?
Correct mate,total **** talkers as the one I looked at was in Ballymena branch,already knowing that Mullusk branch had one aswell I phoned a sale guy I know in there and he even said the guy was talking out of his **** as every branch had one.
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why pay any extra money ,its no better than a normal st ,unless red leather is your thing,lol.
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Can get the new model ST2 for £17500,and then less privlige which makes it alot of car for not alot of money.
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