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Old 22 May 2008, 08:42 PM
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www.BMWLand.co.uk - Where Power Meets Control - UK BMW Car chat site :: View topic - Urgent 320d Potential Engine weakness
Old 22 May 2008, 09:12 PM
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I always thought BMW's were unreliable and had silly prices for replacement parts

Not nice for the owners though
Old 22 May 2008, 11:49 PM
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yeah been reading this mines only done 35000 but still abit worrying
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i read lots of horror stories about 320d's that's why I went for a 330d instead, absolutely no such issues with them in comparison.
Old 23 May 2008, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rb5_336
i read lots of horror stories about 320d's that's why I went for a 330d instead, absolutely no such issues with them in comparison.
330d suffers with the same problem, sorry about that. I have the bill as testament to!
Old 23 May 2008, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy M3
330d suffers with the same problem, sorry about that. I have the bill as testament to!
Fair enough, that's the first time I've heard that. I thought they used different turbos and different manifold
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Shame as they are pretty much spot on, much to recommend them but this puts me right off.
Old 23 May 2008, 12:32 PM
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I don't think they are the same parts, but they do have the same problems sadly. Ours too did 70k before it expired.
Old 23 May 2008, 12:34 PM
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Although you really shouldn't need too (ie the part shouldn't break) the preventative remedy is fairly easy for those who are competent with the spanners.
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parents had a 6 month old bmw 320i back in 1990 (low mileage from main dealer). Back in the days of 1 year warranties the head gasket went despite it being fully bmw serviced and driven like miss daisy at about 18 months.
Old 23 May 2008, 11:28 PM
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Not to mention the Nikasil "issues" which led to a lot of the 90's engines having premature bore-liner wear, just a slight oversight for the UK market
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Nikasil issues are ancient history now, totally irrelevant.

The 330d engine is basically a 6 cylinder version of the 320d engine - lots of parts are either the same or similar, including the manifold. You probably hear more stories about 320d's because there are so many more of them around.

You could replace the manifold as a preventive measure if you're worried, or remove the flaps entirely as some owners have done.
Old 24 May 2008, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy M3
330d suffers with the same problem, sorry about that. I have the bill as testament to!
I have a E60 535 m sport , are these known to have the same problem ,
Old 24 May 2008, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
Nikasil issues are ancient history now, totally irrelevant.

The 330d engine is basically a 6 cylinder version of the 320d engine - lots of parts are either the same or similar, including the manifold. You probably hear more stories about 320d's because there are so many more of them around.

You could replace the manifold as a preventive measure if you're worried, or remove the flaps entirely as some owners have done.
How can a 6 cylinder manifold be the same as a 4 cylider manifold?

Anyway, I feel this shouldnt put people off BMWs engine wise. Obviously its bad that something breaks, and in this case, its an odd part that breaks. I mean, if anyones engine ingested a piece of metal, I think it would be bye-bye engine....for anyone, whether it be a real bomb proof audi 5cyl or a mercedes w124.......

Does anyone know if BMW have a remedy?
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Originally Posted by djmisio85
How can a 6 cylinder manifold be the same as a 4 cylider manifold?

Does anyone know if BMW have a remedy?
Same basic design, just a bit longer! See:

RealOEM.COM Part Category Selection

vs

RealOEM.COM Part Category Selection

I've a feeling the later manifolds have the flaps on a slightly thicker pivot than the earlier ones, which should mean they're a bit stronger and less likely to break. Don't quote me on that, though...
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No such thing as a bomb-proof car: VAG, Mercs (especially the Chrysler era ones), BMWs - eventually bits do wear out and/or break at some point. Even the shopping trolley Corrolla is not 100% without fault.

What does make the difference is probablilty or "likelihood" of failure of particular parts and how many parts do go wrong. Whilst some owners are suffering knackered engines due to a failed part....how many are chugging happily along without a problem?


Granted some cars are alot worse than others ,but buying a particular brand is no guarantee that its engine won't self-destruct - if that were the case cars would have 10year warranties........

hmmmm....time to look at a new Kia?


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BMW, making Rovers look reliable.....
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considering bmw are out selling the mondao year in year out, there are god knows how many on the roads running fine
Old 26 May 2008, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
BMW, making Rovers look reliable.....
Tit....

Who is this Rover you speak of ???
Old 26 May 2008, 09:07 AM
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Especially those fitted with the same BMW oil engine ...
Old 26 May 2008, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by bigvern
Especially those fitted with the same BMW oil engine ...

They don't seem to fail in the Rovers which is ironic, they dont develop as much power ?

The Rover engines are employed to do that, it does make me wonder, the home grown stuff gets slagged when it broke down and when it didnt as well but people will defend a German car company to the hilt when it makes something unreliable.
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But is the 320d actually 'unreliable', or is it simply popular among people who like to talk about cars on the internet?
Old 28 May 2008, 09:42 PM
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does this sengine go in 118d or a 12o d?

my sis in law is after a brand new one
Old 28 May 2008, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by paulwrxboro
considering bmw are out selling the mondao year in year out, there are god knows how many on the roads running fine

Mondeo estate is the new bmw ...




..and my turbo didnt stuff up till 100k
Old 29 May 2008, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by j4ckos mate
does this sengine go in 118d or a 12o d?

my sis in law is after a brand new one
Different engine in the 1 series to those in the 320s which have failed.
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Originally Posted by j4ckos mate
does this sengine go in 118d or a 12o d?

my sis in law is after a brand new one
Yell her to see if the kids fit in the back, not much legroom.
Old 30 May 2008, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Shark Man
No such thing as a bomb-proof car: VAG, Mercs (especially the Chrysler era ones), BMWs - eventually bits do wear out and/or break at some point. Even the shopping trolley Corrolla is not 100% without fault.

What does make the difference is probablilty or "likelihood" of failure of particular parts and how many parts do go wrong. Whilst some owners are suffering knackered engines due to a failed part....how many are chugging happily along without a problem?


Granted some cars are alot worse than others ,but buying a particular brand is no guarantee that its engine won't self-destruct - if that were the case cars would have 10year warranties........

hmmmm....time to look at a new Kia?

Theres an audi 100 5cyl somewhere in the world with over 800,000 miles on the clock, on original engine
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Originally Posted by djmisio85
Theres an audi 100 5cyl somewhere in the world with over 800,000 miles on the clock, on original engine
Had a number of these, and they sure are bomb proof, if ever there were such a thing!

I know of one now that has 340k and still on original Clutch too!
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I had a 2.0 5 Cyl 100, great car, dead cheap and fet like utter luxury at the time, removed the cat and it sounded great and went a lot quicker.
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Not quite as many as the Merc Taxi with 2.8million miles on it - admittedly on 3 engines, but its not all just about the engine is it?
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