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Old 06 July 2007, 03:19 PM
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Default Old skool MK2 Escort on E-bay

now that's a proper looking MK2

eBay.co.uk: FORD ESCORT MK2, ROAD, RALLY, RACE OR TRACK CAR !!! (item 260133426163 end time 26-Jul-07 19:30:00 BST)

nuff said.
Old 06 July 2007, 03:20 PM
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Stunning.

But I prefer the Mexico.
Old 06 July 2007, 03:50 PM
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looks great but why oh why not put a Ford lump under there?

"2.0 16V VAUXHALL "RED TOP" ENGINE"

5t.
Old 06 July 2007, 03:53 PM
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I'd much rather own something like that rather than something like an M3 -waaaaaaay cooler.
Old 06 July 2007, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fivetide
looks great but why oh why not put a Ford lump under there?

"2.0 16V VAUXHALL "RED TOP" ENGINE"

5t.
What like a Pinto lol
Old 06 July 2007, 08:33 PM
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Nice looking car, but why o why the vauxhall lump. Really would not want to rag it around with those tyres on. Spend all that money on it and fit cheap far east tyres, no way.

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Old 07 July 2007, 03:56 AM
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Very Nice I'm surprised he didn't 4 link the rear while he was welding in that area anyway though

Originally Posted by Proby521
Nice looking car, but why o why the vauxhall lump. Really would not want to rag it around with those tyres on. Spend all that money on it and fit cheap far east tyres, no way.

Proby
The Red Top Vauxhall engine is widely acknowledged to be one of the best 4 cylinder engines around, is used in countless very competitive Escort rally cars up and down the country, and with MBE management (which this car has) and a decent set of bodies (which this car needs), is definitely a force to be reckoned with. It is also infinitely better than anything available from Ford (BD series excepted)

I personally would be more than happy to 'rag it round' on them tyres, Kumho have a good solid reputation in club level motorsport
Not unlike Yokohama and Bridgestone 10-15 years ago in fact
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Nothing against the Vauxhall lump itself, just the fact its been put in such a good example of a Ford! As for the tyres, well, I take it back, and do apologise, Im only speaking from experience (of Kumhos!)

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Nice car, tho has anyone noticed in the first 'offside' picture that the axle seems located very much towards the front of the rear arch?

Unless the fitting of the arches was a bit 'out' (looking at the quality for the rest of the car, this seems doubtful) - or is it an optical illusion because the rear of the car is sitting up a bit?

I agree with the Red Top being a good engine. BDA still sounds glorious but getting seriously wallet damaging to run nowadays.

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Originally Posted by Proby521
Nothing against the Vauxhall lump itself, just the fact its been put in such a good example of a Ford! As for the tyres, well, I take it back, and do apologise, Im only speaking from experience (of Kumhos!)

Proby
Whilst they may not have the first idea about how to build a decent performance car, Vauxhall have always been able to build a better engine than Ford. The only three engines Ford have ever got right weren't actually designed or built by them
I've no experience whasoever of Kumho's road tyres so I will bow to your superior experience in that department

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I agree with the Red Top being a good engine. BDA still sounds glorious but getting seriously wallet damaging to run nowadays.
BDAs have always been right up there in the 'things that can fatally wound your finances' department
Red Tops are beginning to aim for the same status these days too

As experiences go though, there's still not much to beat standing in the freezing cold p!ssing down rain, in a forest somewhere in Wales, waiting for the BDA/BDG you first heard from 3 miles away to finally howl past you
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
Whilst they may not have the first idea about how to build a decent performance car, Vauxhall have always been able to build a better engine than Ford. The only three engines Ford have ever got right weren't actually designed or built by them

I was spannering on the Jim Clark Rally last year, and we had several Mk 2 Escorts around us in tarmac spec varying from full hysterical spec (BDA) to the latest spec with consequential gearboxes and carbon fibre bumpers! But the main talking point was the one of the front runners who had the most powerful engine which happened to be a all singing and dancing Ford Duratec (I think that's what version it was - the alloy one anyway). It seems this is the thing to have these days, although at around £25,000, it isn't a cheap option. (Apparently the guys car car was the thick end of £70,000 )



As experiences go though, there's still not much to beat standing in the freezing cold p!ssing down rain, in a forest somewhere in Wales, waiting for the BDA/BDG you first heard from 3 miles away to finally howl past you
The only better one was changing a starter motor when the thing was still red hot and covered in mud (for those that don't know, Mk2's used to have 2 batteries to spin them over with 24 volts to make them spin quick enough - the guys at Lucas must have caught on eventually with the amount of burned out starters!)

PS - How do you manage to put quotes in different sections with different replies

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Originally Posted by Proby521
Nice looking car, but why o why the vauxhall lump. Really would not want to rag it around with those tyres on. Spend all that money on it and fit cheap far east tyres, no way.

Proby
Kumho make a very good gravel tyre and that's what they look like to me!!
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Very very nice car the red top's a good choice if you're on a budget 2.3 mountune duratec would be the ultimate !!
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Originally Posted by craigdmcd
The only better one was changing a starter motor when the thing was still red hot and covered in mud (for those that don't know, Mk2's used to have 2 batteries to spin them over with 24 volts to make them spin quick enough - the guys at Lucas must have caught on eventually with the amount of burned out starters!)
Good old Lucas electrical, if there was a corner to be cut, they usually found it Weak windings and high CRs never did make geat bedfellows

Try changing the front brakes of a car fresh out of a fast 12 mile stage, on a hot July Sunday
Tip: When wearing shorts, do not sit on the front wheel immediately after you've removed it

Originally Posted by craigdmcd
PS - How do you manage to put quotes in different sections with different replies
Copy and Paste are your friends

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Old 11 July 2007, 10:05 AM
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My main reason for buying a Vauxhall over a Ford was the engine.

Ford's often handle slightly better but often have pants motors - The Focus ST170 being a prime example.

Vauxhall engine in a classic Ford body seems ideal to me!
Old 11 July 2007, 10:11 AM
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The ST170 couldn't pull the dick off a chocalate mouse zero torque!!
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Finchy - I tested one and the handling was SO good but that farty, buzzy engine was a real let down.

Think the 5 cylinder unit in the new one is a bit cack too - A 215ish bhp engine should NOT struggle to get low 20s mpg!
Old 11 July 2007, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
Try changing the front brakes of a car fresh out of a fast 12 mile stage, on a hot July Sunday
Tip: When wearing shorts, do not sit on the front wheel immediately after you've removed it
Forgotten about that. "COMPOMOTIVE" stamped into your **** backwards
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Nice but it's not 5 linked and looks to sit high at the back as well. For that money I would want an atlas and 5 links.
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Just seems a bit off to me putting a vauxhall motor in there. Yes the Ford units aren't the best but its a Ford! its meant to sound like a can of marbles being rattled!

Surely there must be a cosworth unit or something that would go in at worst. Its like sticking a zetec in a classic mini cooper, yes it will go, yes it'll be faster/more reliable etc but it doesn't make it right

5t.
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This is our old shed And it still runs a Ford Pinto engine which will make life easier when we go to Belguim to do a rally over there

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pll use use the 20xe (redtop) over any of the ford units because as been said its better nither the pinto or a n/a cosworth engine can beat it on power OR drivability. the vauxhall as standard is a brilliant engine for 200 bhp on a set of bodies without any other bits done to it something the ford engine cannot live upto mainly dont to in standard form the vauxhall head being a much better flowing one

cheer rob
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Originally Posted by sbd16v
pll use use the 20xe (redtop) over any of the ford units because as been said its better nither the pinto or a n/a cosworth engine can beat it on power OR drivability. the vauxhall as standard is a brilliant engine for 200 bhp on a set of bodies without any other bits done to it something the ford engine cannot live upto mainly dont to in standard form the vauxhall head being a much better flowing one

cheer rob
dont forgot who designed the xe
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Originally Posted by sbd16v
pll use use the 20xe (redtop) over any of the ford units because as been said its better nither the pinto or a n/a cosworth engine can beat it on power OR drivability. the vauxhall as standard is a brilliant engine for 200 bhp on a set of bodies without any other bits done to it something the ford engine cannot live upto mainly dont to in standard form the vauxhall head being a much better flowing one

cheer rob
A wild stab in the dark here, but I'm guessing your car runs some of Steve Broughtons goodies at the business end


Originally Posted by RETRO_AL
dont forgot who designed the xe

General Motors Deutschland did

Cosworth developed a 16V head to sit on an existing GM production block, exactly as they did for the Pinto. The XE just happened to be a far superior starting point
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Originally Posted by Olly
Forgotten about that. "COMPOMOTIVE" stamped into your **** backwards
Not stamped Burned


I couldn't **** comfortably for weeks
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